Windows 10 2004 optimization/defrag bug

Anonymous
2020-05-29T10:31:40+00:00

Hi all

I've just completed the Windows 10 2004 upgrade and I have noticed 2 issues.

  1. When I manually trim my SSD in the drive defrag/optimize tool in windows and I reboot it says 'never optimized' when i go back. I heard this was a bug in insider preview which they obviously didn't fix. 
  2. I happened to have the defrag/optimize tool open at the same time as Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Security and Maintenance, I initiated a manual maintenance and I caught windows defragging my SSD and then it trimmed it straight afterwards. If i click the optimize button in defrag/optimize tool it only trims it and not defrag.

This seem to only happen when Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Security and Maintenance initiates its automatic maintenance or if I select start maintenance.

This is concerning as it should never attempt to defrag an SSD.

My laptop is only a few months old and came with a PCIe SSD and Windows 10 1909 so there is no compatibility or lack of trim support issues obviously.

I have disabled scheduled weekly optimizations in the defrag/optimize tool which prevents it from attempting to defrag when the control penal maintenance attempts its maintenance when the computer is idle.

I want to let everyone know that this is happening so others are aware. My other computers that have the latest update are also doing it.

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  1. Anonymous
    2020-07-16T04:29:02+00:00

    Windows defrags ssds once a month ....with the new technology of ssds ....defragging once a month does nothing but keep the life of the ssd. Please do some research on ssds and windows. The only bug is that windows defrag wont retain the defrag history. You should set  auto defrag to once a month is you have an ssd. Manual maintenance is in case of need to.

    According to Scott Hanselman of Microsoft, Windows 7 and later do defragment a solid-state disk (SSD) but in a completely different way. There is less incentive for defragmentation of SSDs because file fragmentation has less performance impact on them and they handle a finite number of storage cycles before their lifespan expires. However, file systems cannot support infinite file fragmentation as they reach their metadata limit. In addition, Microsoft Drive Optimizer is also responsible for performing the TRIM command on SSDs.

    ^Reference:****Microsoft Drive Optimizer | Wikipedia & The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD?^

    So do you think we should leave disk optimizer enabled and forget about it?

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  2. Anonymous
    2020-07-16T04:18:17+00:00

    Windows defrags ssds once a month ....with the new technology of ssds ....defragging once a month does nothing but keep the life of the ssd. Please do some research on ssds and windows. The only bug is that windows defrag wont retain the defrag history. You should set  auto defrag to once a month is you have an ssd. Manual maintenance is in case of need to.

    According to Scott Hanselman of Microsoft, Windows 7 and later do defragment a solid-state disk (SSD) but in a completely different way. There is less incentive for defragmentation of SSDs because file fragmentation has less performance impact on them and they handle a finite number of storage cycles before their lifespan expires. However, file systems cannot support infinite file fragmentation as they reach their metadata limit. In addition, Microsoft Drive Optimizer is also responsible for performing the TRIM command on SSDs.

    ^Reference:****Microsoft Drive Optimizer | Wikipedia & The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD?^

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  3. Anonymous
    2020-07-16T03:50:52+00:00

    Windows defrags ssds once a month ....with the new technology of ssds ....defragging once a month does nothing but keep the life of the ssd. Please do some research on ssds and windows. The only bug is that windows defrag wont retain the defrag history. You should set  auto maintenance to once a month is you have an ssd. Manual maintenance is in case of need to.

    Yes because windows is silly. Mac os x. Android. Linux. And virtually every other OS don't defrag ssds as its literally worthless.

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  4. Anonymous
    2020-07-16T03:42:19+00:00

    Windows defrags ssds once a month ....with the new technology of ssds ....defragging once a month does nothing but keep the life of the ssd. Please do some research on ssds and windows. The only bug is that windows defrag wont retain the defrag history. You should set  auto defrag to once a month is you have an ssd. Manual maintenance is in case of need to.

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  5. Anonymous
    2020-07-16T01:08:14+00:00

    I do not understand why you posted this old article from "Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 19551" that is dated  January 23, 2020 10:03 am.

    I'm so sorry. 😞 Don't scold me, right?

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