Windows 10 2004 optimization/defrag bug

Anonymous
2020-05-29T10:31:40+00:00

Hi all

I've just completed the Windows 10 2004 upgrade and I have noticed 2 issues.

  1. When I manually trim my SSD in the drive defrag/optimize tool in windows and I reboot it says 'never optimized' when i go back. I heard this was a bug in insider preview which they obviously didn't fix. 
  2. I happened to have the defrag/optimize tool open at the same time as Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Security and Maintenance, I initiated a manual maintenance and I caught windows defragging my SSD and then it trimmed it straight afterwards. If i click the optimize button in defrag/optimize tool it only trims it and not defrag.

This seem to only happen when Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Security and Maintenance initiates its automatic maintenance or if I select start maintenance.

This is concerning as it should never attempt to defrag an SSD.

My laptop is only a few months old and came with a PCIe SSD and Windows 10 1909 so there is no compatibility or lack of trim support issues obviously.

I have disabled scheduled weekly optimizations in the defrag/optimize tool which prevents it from attempting to defrag when the control penal maintenance attempts its maintenance when the computer is idle.

I want to let everyone know that this is happening so others are aware. My other computers that have the latest update are also doing it.

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  1. Anonymous
    2020-07-15T06:05:04+00:00

    the defrag / optimization bug is still NOT yet fixed, even with the newly released KB4565503 cumulative update for 2004 in mid-July.  disappointing to say the least :(

    guess we'll have to wait for either a future non-security fix later this month or the next cumulative update in August to see if the problem would be fixed then

    this is one of the results when MS fired much of their QA team several years ago - quality of new recent Win10 releases have not been good when first released to the public

    I agree with you 100 %. BTW I just posted this https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/is-this-it-for-july-2020-patch-tuesday/9b549cc4-9350-441c-9fd4-c632a5d42bbb

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  2. Anonymous
    2020-07-14T18:49:01+00:00

    the defrag / optimization bug is still NOT yet fixed, even with the newly released KB4565503 cumulative update for 2004 in mid-July.  disappointing to say the least :(

    guess we'll have to wait for either a future non-security fix later this month or the next cumulative update in August to see if the problem would be fixed then

    this is one of the results when MS fired much of their QA team several years ago - quality of new recent Win10 releases have not been good when first released to the public

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  3. Anonymous
    2020-07-14T03:40:57+00:00

    i recommend charging ms for new ssds then they will leran they have replace million ssd not counting the software games ect on hard drive be charging for that to least 5000.00 charge software after million people do that it get fixed il be putting this info on all social sites

     MICROSOFT LEARN  FIXISSUES BE FOORE RELEASE or youl be payng out a lot money  my fix is turnoff all optimization in 10 4 ever till fixed

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  4. Anonymous
    2020-07-11T21:50:32+00:00

    Hi all

    I've just completed the Windows 10 2004 upgrade and I have noticed 2 issues.

    1. When I manually trim my SSD in the drive defrag/optimize tool in windows and I reboot it says 'never optimized' when i go back. I heard this was a bug in insider preview which they obviously didn't fix. 
    2. I happened to have the defrag/optimize tool open at the same time as Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Security and Maintenance, I initiated a manual maintenance and I caught windows defragging my SSD and then it trimmed it straight afterwards. If i click the optimize button in defrag/optimize tool it only trims it and not defrag.

    This seem to only happen when Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Security and Maintenance initiates its automatic maintenance or if I select start maintenance.

    This is concerning as it should never attempt to defrag an SSD.

    My laptop is only a few months old and came with a PCIe SSD and Windows 10 1909 so there is no compatibility or lack of trim support issues obviously.

    I have disabled scheduled weekly optimizations in the defrag/optimize tool which prevents it from attempting to defrag when the control penal maintenance attempts its maintenance when the computer is idle.

    I want to let everyone know that this is happening so others are aware. My other computers that have the latest update are also doing it.

    Same problem here on 3 PC's with SSDs!

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  5. Anonymous
    2020-07-06T16:21:56+00:00

    Good point, but the HDD trim  error in event log never occurred until MS messed up Defrag in 2004 update so I'm guessing Windows can identify a hybrid drive that supports trim and only trim hdd's that need it.

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