Systemwide password amnesia (v2004 build 19041.173)

Anonymous
2020-04-10T20:46:55+00:00

I have a Surface Pro 5 with a Windows Hello camera that wasn't working and I wasn't able to fix it. Looked like I'd need to do a reset to fix the drivers, so instead I decided to give 2004 a try, hoping the update would refresh the camera drives. Indeed this worked, but I've been having a lot of problems since the update:

Seems like all sorts of applications and OS features won't remember my username/passwords anymore.

  • Every time I log in I have to sign into both one drive personal and one drive business.
  • Outlook keeps asking me to log into my office365 every few hours.
  • Acrobat keeps asking for my Adobe login every time a load a pdf if I haven't done so in a few hours.
  • Settings periodically makes me fix my insider account configuration by re-authenticating with Hello
  • Lastpass extention in Firefox keeps asking me to enter my password despite being configured to only require a fingeprint (it first asks me for my fingerprint, but then also asks for the password)
  • probably some stuff I can't recall right now.

I wasn't having any of these issues before the update.

I tried following Lastpass's support advice to fix it by reinstalling the extension and resetting several settings but this didn't help.

It's possible these are all individual issues, but since it seems to be an issue with remembering credentials across a variety of applications, I'm suspecting it's a system wide issue and maybe not specific to these applications.

I checked that the credential manager service is running. It was set to manual. I changed it to automatic and rebooted but this didn't seem to help.

Anyone have an idea what could be going on here?

Thanks!

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Anonymous
2020-10-12T21:28:18+00:00

Update 2/8/21

This issue has been fixed by Windows in this Windows 10 update, February 2, 2021—KB4598291 (OS Builds 19041.789 and 19042.789) Preview (microsoft.com).

  • Addresses an issue in which using local Service for User (S4U) affects Data Protection API (DPAPI) credential keys and causes users to sign out unexpectedly.

I am updating the Outlook Known Issue article to reflect the same, Outlook and other apps won't remember password after Windows Updates - Outlook (microsoft.com).

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Sumit 44,226 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
2021-02-10T03:14:41+00:00

Issue resolved in KB4601319 monthly update. If you continue to hit the issue, let us know.

February 2, 2021—KB4598291 (OS Builds 19041.789 and 19042.789) Preview (microsoft.com)

  • Addresses an issue in which using local Service for User (S4U) affects Data Protection API (DPAPI) credential keys and causes users to sign out unexpectedly.

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  1. Anonymous
    2021-02-10T20:35:04+00:00

    Issue resolved in KB4601319 monthly update. If you continue to hit the issue, let us know.

    February 2, 2021—KB4598291 (OS Builds 19041.789 and 19042.789) Preview (microsoft.com)

    • Addresses an issue in which using local Service for User (S4U) affects Data Protection API (DPAPI) credential keys and causes users to sign out unexpectedly.

    Well, so I am letting you know! The update is installed and after reboot, oh wait, not again 'OneDrive isn't signed in'.

    Why the OneDrive cannot store login information in some reliable way, why does it have to rely on Credential Manager that is obviously faulty? 

    After the installation of OneDrive the record for it in Credential Manager got created.

    After shutdown, some time later upon Windows start the 'OneDrive isn't signed in' is displayed and the record in Credential Manager magically disappeared and the 'OneDrive isn't signed in' is shown.

    I made an experiment for you, why do I feel like a beta tester?

    1. Credential Manager has no record for OneDrive and 'OneDrive isn't signed in' i shown upon system start
    2. I login into the OneDrive, and after while (not immediately) the 'OneDrive Cached Credential' appears in Credential Manager
    3. I restart the PC, everything seems to be ok, OneDrive logs in automatically
    4. I shutdown PC for 5 minutes
    5. The PC is started, system boots up and OneDrive logs in automatically, the 'OneDrive Cached Credential' is present in Credential Manager
    6. I wait couple of minutes and check the Credential Manager again,  the 'OneDrive Cached Credential' record is no longer here, somethin has gobbled it up. Something purposely deletes this record.
    7. I restart the PC and of course am welcome by the 'OneDrive isn't signed in'.

    The KB4601319 fixed nothing regarding this problem.

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  2. Anonymous
    2021-02-08T21:22:42+00:00

    Well,

    this trick was not and is not working for me.

    The command

    • Get-ScheduledTask | foreach { If ((xml).GetElementsByTagName("LogonType").'#text' -eq "S4U") { $_.TaskName } }

    finds nothing in my case.

    Now after yesturday's update my version is 20H2, 19042.789 and today after booting up

    the OneDrive asked for password ... again.

    It is still medded up.

    How hard can it be to fix???

    That's very odd. Other than Onedrive, are you asked for a password anywhere else like websites?

    No, I'm not being asked for passwords for websites - I'm staying away from Edge so my browser does not depend on Credential Manager :-)

    Just uninstalled the OneDrive, it is a faulty and I'm fed up with entering password every time I boot up my pc.

    OneDrive might be a good utility but right now it is broken and not fixed (again).

    BTW, the inability of MS to fix this nag for such a long time tells a lot.

    The problem with MS Office also persists, every few days when I run any office app (Word, Excel,...) on the upper bar is an exclamation mark near my username, upon clicking it, it shows:

    'Account Error, Sorry we can't get to your account right now.

    To fix this, please sign in again'.

    So summarizing, it looks like nothing has been fixed at all.

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  3. Sumit 44,226 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
    2021-02-07T12:01:31+00:00

    Well,

    this trick was not and is not working for me.

    The command

    • Get-ScheduledTask | foreach { If ((xml).GetElementsByTagName("LogonType").'#text' -eq "S4U") { $_.TaskName } }

    finds nothing in my case.

    Now after yesturday's update my version is 20H2, 19042.789 and today after booting up

    the OneDrive asked for password ... again.

    It is still medded up.

    How hard can it be to fix???

    That's very odd. Other than Onedrive, are you asked for a password anywhere else like websites?

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