Windows 10 Taskbar bug presented in 1709, worst on 1803 upgrade

Anonymous
2018-04-07T21:24:05+00:00

Hello, my issue is, when after i close any game or any fullscreen application my taskbar icons (close to the clock) it becomes blurry and some disappear...

It should look like this...

After i close a game it turns into blurry icons and some disappear, at this stage is there other bug, it not let me take any PrintScreen, when i try to send the picture to the Paint it becomes a black picture, cant take any desktop picture or fix the blurry icon, unless i reboot computer...

Differences between upgrades:

1709 the issue is almost the same, but its only on the blurry icons.

1803 there are 3 issues, the blurry icons, a few disappear and cant take desktop PrintScreen

I hope you Devs can tell something about it...

PS: This is not important since the update is not released yet, but there is other issue that i find in 1803 with AMD driver, the latest 18.3.4 the system wount boot, it stays stuck on Windows logo, 18.3.3 and older updates works like a charm

PS2: The issue is not on my end, the issue is presented on 7 machines with random hardwares.

OS: Windows 10 x64 Pro

C: NOX HUMMER FullTower

PS: Corsair TX 850w

HS: Thermaltake ProWater 850i

CPU: AMD FX8350 x8 4Ghz

GPU: MSI AMD Radeon RX580 Gaming X+ 8Gb GDDR5

RAM: Kingston (16Gb) 2x8Gb HyperX Fury DDR3 (1866)

MB: MSI 970 Gaming 

SSD: Toshiba Q300

D: LG ULTRA HD 4K TV 43UH610V

Best Regards!

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-07-14T22:32:18+00:00

    about the blurry icons, as someone mentioned, it doesn't happen to ALL icons, however, MOST icons are affected. also, it is not reserved to some 3rd party apps.

    for me, the only icons that are NOT AFFECTED are:

    • task manager status icon
    • network status icon
    • battery icon
    • volume icon

    icons AFFECTED:

    • windows defender notification icon (white shield with green checkmark badge when no issue)
    • IDrive
    • every other 3rd party app i've used

    Indeed, regarding the blurriness problem, Jason mentioned that the Windows Defender icon was one of the worst offenders for him.

    For me:

    Blurry:

    Amazon Drive

    Apple AirPort Base Station Agent

    Apple iCloud

    Google Music Manager

    Origin

    Razer Synapse

    RedFox AnyDVD

    RoboForm

    Windows Defender

    Not blurry:

    AutoHotkey

    Bluetooth Devices

    Brother ControlCenter 4

    CrashPlan Central

    DisplayPilot

    Dropbox

    Microsoft Outlook

    NVIDIA Settings

    Plex Media Server

    PowerISO

    Realtek HD Audio Manager

    Safely Remove Hardware and Eject Media

    Splashtop Streamer

    Steam

    Winamp Agent

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  2. Anonymous
    2018-07-14T22:28:04+00:00

    This is NOT a complex issue. You fix something like this in 20 minutes work of programming. They could even do a quick and dirty workaround, of just resetting the frame if you switch resolutions. They wont fix this. There are bugs like this since beta of Windows 10. For example, if you flip a tablet into tablet mode and switch landscape mode, there is a high chance, that the task menu date is shifted ut of the screen and you cant see it anymore. They never fixed this too, where it is easy to fix.

    I do agree that it shouldn't be a complex problem to fix. But this is Microsoft we're talking about. I share similar frustrations about things that don't get fixed, such as this one: If you use the "Microsoft Store" version of Office 365 that is preinstalled on a new W10 computer, and change your default PDF viewer to the Adobe Reader instead of the Microsoft one, Outlook will forever prompt what app you want to open PDF attachments with, despite clicking the "always use this app" checkbox. The only solution is to remove the Store version, and download/install O365 from the portal.

    I have several examples of things that have impacted Windows Server as well, such as one of the patches back in March that broke Ethernet adapters in virtual Windows 7 and Server 2008 R2 machines, or the .NET framework security patch that just came out a few days ago, that doesn't install successfully on 2012 R2 if the "preview" patch was installed the month before. Their workaround is to remove the preview patch and perform a DISM cleanup.

    It feels to me, that Microsoft's QA is absolutely atrocious at finding things that should be caught, and we users have become the unpaid QA. Computerworld's Woody Leonhard (Woody on Windows) rails about that, justifiably, all the time. My personal opinion when it comes to Windows 10, is that Microsoft is far more focused on introducing new features, than fixing existing problems. I wish they would take a lesson from Apple, and have a cycle or two where they focus on bugfixes/reliability/stability/improvements that don't involve new features.

    As for this specific overflow window problem, I don't know, it just bugs me more than "normal," and I intend on being a dog with a bone as long as it takes.

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  3. Anonymous
    2018-07-14T22:12:49+00:00
    1. No they are not the same icons that disappear, but it does appear to be dependant on the order the icons were displayed in.  Note: I'm still not sure but I think the zorder issue and missing icons issue may be the same and icons that are "missing" are just outside the avalible zbox. In other words the box is too small and cuts off icons. I belive this since the apps are still running and upon scaling and resolution changes they sometimes come back leading me to believe they were never really gone just obscured from view. 
    2. My current work around is to use always show icons. Using always show icons fixes problems 1, 2, and  3. But not 4 which is blurry icons. 
    3. I can easily recreate the problem on any machine now. While using scaling, change resolutions trying multiple different scaling and resolution settings. Various different combinations will generate each of the different issues seen in people's screen shots or combinations there of depending on your original settings.
    4. Blurry icons seem to be a separate issue from the other three but I have not yet conformed.  I haven't done as much testing on the blurry icons. 

    I hope the above helps and while for you changing scaling  from 150 to 175 and back works for you it will not work for everyone as the native resolution and scaling and the variation of the scaling and resolution changes seem to all contribute to various combinations of the problem.

    If I had to narrow the issues above down into one I would say it is a notification box size issue as windows seems to try and format the icon spacing and location based on the size of the notification box. Some times the box is too small (missing icons) or too big (padding) or off center (below start bar).  I think of they fix the box size then items 1-3 all get fixed. 

    I hope my testing notes above help.

    Regards,

    Bryan

    Thank you Bryan, I think the notion that the first three issues boil down to an inadequate size of the overflow window rings true.

    That does remind me of a couple of more things worth mentioning:

    • Changing the display scaling manually, sometimes generates a message that says "Some apps won't respond to scaling changes until you sign out." I think we need to be clear that we are not making display scaling changes intentionally when the problem happens - a game or app may be doing that as part of resolution changes.
    • Jason asked me to grab a screenshot of the overflow window with transparency set on the taskbar, to see if the overflow window was getting displayed behind it. The answer to that question is no, as evidenced by the below screenshot. I think this also reinforces your notion that the problem is simply the size of the overflow window not being sufficient:

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  4. Anonymous
    2018-07-14T18:28:07+00:00

    about the blurry icons, as someone mentioned, it doesn't happen to ALL icons, however, MOST icons are affected. also, it is not reserved to some 3rd party apps.

    for me, the only icons that are NOT AFFECTED are:

    • task manager status icon
    • network status icon
    • battery icon
    • volume icon

    icons AFFECTED:

    • windows defender notification icon (white shield with green checkmark badge when no issue)
    • IDrive
    • every other 3rd party app i've used

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  5. Anonymous
    2018-07-14T18:23:19+00:00
    1. it only depends on current order of notification area icons
    2. that is the "workaround" i use. i check "always show all icons in the notification area" to avoid losing access to icons after resolution switches. i never have an icon disappear this way.
    3. in my case, to repeat the issue, i just have to start a game that uses 1920x1080 resolution and quit. upon returning to my 3820x2160 200% scaling desktop, the overflow notification area is scaled improperly and some icons cannot be accessed anymore. the overflow box ends up extending behind the taskbar.

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