Homegroup removed! How to get network sharing work with Windows 10 v1803.

Anonymous
2018-05-11T04:03:57+00:00

Here is short description how I get my network sharing work with Windows 10 v1803.

(I haven't never use Homegroup so I start directly from step 2.)

  1. Only for those PC's which are still using Windows 10 v1709 or older:

    Disconnect from non-existing Homegroup if you have used it.

2.1. All PC's: Check Network profile and Network discovery and Share settings

Sometimes this selection to change between Private and Public network profile is missing from Settings / Networks page. In that case profile must change by PowerShell. Right Click Windows Icon (Start button) and open PowerShell (Admin) and use following commands to get interface index number and change profile to Private (or Public):

Get-NetConnectionProfile

Set-NetConnectionProfile -InterfaceIndex <index number> -NetworkCategory Private

2.2. All PC's: Check Network Discovery and Share settings

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  1. All PC's: Set Start type to Automatic and start following services that allow PC's to be visible on Network. (Reboot.)

   Push Win Key and type "Services", locate these services.

   - Function Discovery Provider Host

   - Function Discovery Resource Publication

   - SSDP Discovery

  • UPnP Device Host

  1. Setting shares.

4.1. Check your current shares.

Open file explorer and type \localhost to address bar to see what shares are made in this computer.

![](https://learn-attachment.microsoft.com/api/attachments/d9a66593-0cd1-499b-908f-36a6854f27c1?platform=QnA

4.2. Create new share (here I use folder "Test"). 

(Setting "Turn on sharing so anyone …" in Step 2.2.  make share for folders in C:\Users automatic.)

Folder is now shared and Network share path is: \PCNAME\Test

4.3. Safe way to share folders.

Create user account to all users on your network to whom you want to give access to shared resources.

Use same user ID and password which they have on their own computers.

Right click "Test" and open Properties and select Security tab to see current settings.

Default security settings are shown in next picture.

Those settings allow access to shared folder(s) only for those users who have user ID on that computer.

4.4.  Sharing folder "Test" to Everyone" (Very unsafe setting! Think carefully do you need to select this!)

If you want that everyone have access to that share then go to Security tab and:

  • When back to Permissions dialog select which rights you want to give to "Everyone".

Now anyone on your home network should have access to shared folders without credentials or having user account on your computer.

  1. Now when click Network on File Explorer all your PC's should be visible in Computer and Network sections.

This should be cover the essentials to sharing your data over local network. This share is not limited to C:\Users folder, every folder can be handled like shown in steps 4.

Now your PC's should visible, but if not then try to reset all network settings:

Go to Settings / Network & Internet / Status, scroll down to find "Network reset, on next window click "Reset  Now" button.

It will takes about 5 min to perform this reset and then PC reboot automatic.

When you sing in first time you get notification something like "Do you want your PC to be access by other computers", click Yes for that.

If you get error message "Windows cannot access \PC_NAME" when you try to connect shared folders then continue to step 6.

  1. There is some bug on Windows 10 1803 and because of that PC's can't always connect to each other by Name.

If you get error "\PCNAME path not found" you can solve this by adding your PC's and IP-addresses to hosts file.

6.1 New routers (or modems) may have feature to remember which IP-addresses are assign to each device, but with older routers (or modems) you have to check that your router or modem is set give predefined IP-addresses linked to each PC's MAC-address.

This way PC's will get same IP-address every time when it ask IP-address form router (or modem) DHCP-server.

There should be some kind of list of PC names with MAC addresses and given IP-addresses of each connected PC. 

Picture show that list on my router. In my case with old router I had to select manual assignment  in each line. 

6.2. Add all PC's IP-addresses and Names to hosts file (C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts). 

You can check your IP-address and PC's name by opening command prompt (CMD)

For IP-address type command: ipconfig you get line like this: IPv4 Address ………. 192.168.100.101

For PC name type command:  hostname

Write down IP-address and Name of each PC and add those to that hosts file.

To edit copy hosts file to some another location, right click it and use notepad to edit and save it. Replace original file with edited file. Because hosts file is located on system folder replace will ask administrators rights to perform it.

localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.

# 127.0.0.1             localhost

# ::1                        localhost

192.168.100.101  PC1   # Ethernet  

   192.168.100.102  PC2   # Ethernet

   192.168.100.202  PC2   # Wi-Fi

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-10-20T07:36:55+00:00

    None of this worked. Not one single step was as described here, not one. No processes were the same, no windows appeared the same.

    Do I have the only Windows 10 machine in the world that is completely different from all other Windows 10 machines?

    I am an admin with no admin rights on my machine. I can't change the host file.

    All this because Microsoft is too **** stupid to create a one-click file sharing setup.

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  2. Anonymous
    2018-10-20T13:36:13+00:00

    If you Google "open file as admin", you'll find that before you open Notepad,

    • you right-click on Notepad
    • select "Open as Administrator"

    Then go to C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc

    Now you can save the file. 

    This worked for me.

    Unfortunately, it's not stupidity. It's control. You want access to your files from different PCs? "Oh you should use our cloud" where they have access to all of your information.

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  3. Anonymous
    2018-10-20T17:05:31+00:00

    Hi Pauli I use a Linksys WRT 3200AC Router , I think I found it under "connectivity" "DHCP Reservations" But Linksys has a bug with this feature because some devices will not stay reserved. I have to give Linksys a call. Thanks

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  4. Anonymous
    2018-10-20T17:08:46+00:00

    Hi Pauli I am a little confused about the "Powershell" Command. I know how to open powershell with admin privlages. But am confused about the command line you provided ?

    Get-NetConnectionProfile

    Set-NetConnectionProfile -InterfaceIndex <index number> -NetworkCategory Private

    Thanks

    I think I am just going to have to pay Microsoft for support to fix THERE Problem. With a screen share.

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  5. Anonymous
    2018-10-20T19:02:07+00:00

    Normal way to change between Private and Public network is to use Settings / Network / Status / Change connection properties, but IF that is missing for some reason then you need to use those PowerShell commands.

    When you look my picture you can see that after command Get-NetConnectionProfile there is "InterfaceIndex X", remeber that number X (on my case it's 12)

    Now type command

    Set-NetConnectionProfile -InterfaceIndex <index number> -NetworkCategory Private

    and replace <index number> with that index number.

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