Homegroup removed! How to get network sharing work with Windows 10 v1803.

Anonymous
2018-05-11T04:03:57+00:00

Here is short description how I get my network sharing work with Windows 10 v1803.

(I haven't never use Homegroup so I start directly from step 2.)

  1. Only for those PC's which are still using Windows 10 v1709 or older:

    Disconnect from non-existing Homegroup if you have used it.

2.1. All PC's: Check Network profile and Network discovery and Share settings

Sometimes this selection to change between Private and Public network profile is missing from Settings / Networks page. In that case profile must change by PowerShell. Right Click Windows Icon (Start button) and open PowerShell (Admin) and use following commands to get interface index number and change profile to Private (or Public):

Get-NetConnectionProfile

Set-NetConnectionProfile -InterfaceIndex <index number> -NetworkCategory Private

2.2. All PC's: Check Network Discovery and Share settings

https://learn-attachment.microsoft.com/api/attachments/f7770a4f-8e37-48c9-a436-2fe4e8e12ca0?platform=QnA

  1. All PC's: Set Start type to Automatic and start following services that allow PC's to be visible on Network. (Reboot.)

   Push Win Key and type "Services", locate these services.

   - Function Discovery Provider Host

   - Function Discovery Resource Publication

   - SSDP Discovery

  • UPnP Device Host

  1. Setting shares.

4.1. Check your current shares.

Open file explorer and type \localhost to address bar to see what shares are made in this computer.

![](https://learn-attachment.microsoft.com/api/attachments/d9a66593-0cd1-499b-908f-36a6854f27c1?platform=QnA

4.2. Create new share (here I use folder "Test"). 

(Setting "Turn on sharing so anyone …" in Step 2.2.  make share for folders in C:\Users automatic.)

Folder is now shared and Network share path is: \PCNAME\Test

4.3. Safe way to share folders.

Create user account to all users on your network to whom you want to give access to shared resources.

Use same user ID and password which they have on their own computers.

Right click "Test" and open Properties and select Security tab to see current settings.

Default security settings are shown in next picture.

Those settings allow access to shared folder(s) only for those users who have user ID on that computer.

4.4.  Sharing folder "Test" to Everyone" (Very unsafe setting! Think carefully do you need to select this!)

If you want that everyone have access to that share then go to Security tab and:

  • When back to Permissions dialog select which rights you want to give to "Everyone".

Now anyone on your home network should have access to shared folders without credentials or having user account on your computer.

  1. Now when click Network on File Explorer all your PC's should be visible in Computer and Network sections.

This should be cover the essentials to sharing your data over local network. This share is not limited to C:\Users folder, every folder can be handled like shown in steps 4.

Now your PC's should visible, but if not then try to reset all network settings:

Go to Settings / Network & Internet / Status, scroll down to find "Network reset, on next window click "Reset  Now" button.

It will takes about 5 min to perform this reset and then PC reboot automatic.

When you sing in first time you get notification something like "Do you want your PC to be access by other computers", click Yes for that.

If you get error message "Windows cannot access \PC_NAME" when you try to connect shared folders then continue to step 6.

  1. There is some bug on Windows 10 1803 and because of that PC's can't always connect to each other by Name.

If you get error "\PCNAME path not found" you can solve this by adding your PC's and IP-addresses to hosts file.

6.1 New routers (or modems) may have feature to remember which IP-addresses are assign to each device, but with older routers (or modems) you have to check that your router or modem is set give predefined IP-addresses linked to each PC's MAC-address.

This way PC's will get same IP-address every time when it ask IP-address form router (or modem) DHCP-server.

There should be some kind of list of PC names with MAC addresses and given IP-addresses of each connected PC. 

Picture show that list on my router. In my case with old router I had to select manual assignment  in each line. 

6.2. Add all PC's IP-addresses and Names to hosts file (C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts). 

You can check your IP-address and PC's name by opening command prompt (CMD)

For IP-address type command: ipconfig you get line like this: IPv4 Address ………. 192.168.100.101

For PC name type command:  hostname

Write down IP-address and Name of each PC and add those to that hosts file.

To edit copy hosts file to some another location, right click it and use notepad to edit and save it. Replace original file with edited file. Because hosts file is located on system folder replace will ask administrators rights to perform it.

localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.

# 127.0.0.1             localhost

# ::1                        localhost

192.168.100.101  PC1   # Ethernet  

   192.168.100.102  PC2   # Ethernet

   192.168.100.202  PC2   # Wi-Fi

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-12-13T15:53:32+00:00

    I've had this issue when using different OS versions or even just different OS. (Android tv requires windows to have this enabled for the same reason... can't connect without. Turned this on and worked great! ) 

    https://www.windowscentral.com/how-access-files-network-devices-using-smbv1-windows-10

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  2. Anonymous
    2018-12-13T15:51:40+00:00

    In this particular case, it may be a password issue. If your trying to network file share from a device that DOES NOT have a password set on it and you do have password protected sharing on (default setting) you will either need to turn it off, OR in Local Security Policy there is an option called "Limit use of blank account password to local only" and turn that off. HOWEVERR! I seldom ever recommending turning down or off security on a machine. I'd look into the file sharing options first to ensure that PW protected sharing is in fact turned off.

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  3. Anonymous
    2018-12-13T03:10:47+00:00

    So What does this error mean ? I am trying to network a Windows 10 machine to a Windows XP Machine.

    You cannot connect to  \192.168.1.124 the file share because it is not secure. This share requires the obsolete SMB1 protocol, which is unsafe and could expose your system to attack. Your system requires SMB2 or higher. For more information on resolving this issue see go.microsoft.com/fwlink

    Thanks

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  4. Anonymous
    2018-12-12T21:42:20+00:00

    Hi,

    I have 4 PCs on my Home Network: 2 Desktop running Win 7, 1 Desktop running Win 10 and 1 Laptop running Win 10. The Laptop can access every single PC on the network but no PCs on the network can access the Laptop. I always get the message "Windows cannot access \Laptop-Suzanne. You do not have permissions..." when I try to access the Laptop. I have scrupulously followed every single steps posted above.

    As indicated in step #6, I have edited the "hosts" file as follow for each Win 10 PCs:

    Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp.

    This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.

    This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each

    entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should

    be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.

    The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one

    space.

    Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual

    lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.

    For example:

    #      102.54.94.97     rhino.acme.com          # source server

    #       38.25.63.10     x.acme.com              # x client host

    localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.

    127.0.0.1       localhost

    ::1             localhost

    192.168.2.30 PC-SUZANNE #Wi-Fi

    192.168.2.180 PC-SUZANNE #Ethernet

    192.168.2.178 PC-YVES #Wifi

    192.168.2.177 PC-YVES #Ethernet

    192.168.2.16 PC-VINCENT #Ethernet

    192.168.2.15 PC-STORAGE #Ethernet

    Despite of all instructions above, my Laptop can access every PCs on my network but no PCs can access the Laptop. File Sharing works between Win 10 PCs only and only if I set a password for login in on the Win 10 PCs. Note that I don't want to use password on any of my PCs and I currently work with NO PASSWORD set in my Win 10 PCs.

    Can someone help me resolve this annoying problem?

    Thanks

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  5. Anonymous
    2018-12-12T20:19:50+00:00

    Password protection has been turned off since I installed win 10 last February.

    Its not that anyways Paul, try this as a quick fix. "computerpcname   xxx.xxx.x.xxx     " in the hosts file for two machines, they can not connect to the 3rd without problem as they used to. Seems the issue is with Name Resolution on the machine. I followed all of MS tips to ensure that services related to that are on, still no joy. But with the hosts file at least I can get at the shared server even if guests at the BnB cannot. (As they would also have to edit hosts file, most of them are lucky to know how to use a cell phone. ) Maybe time to switch everything to linux, or mac, as much as i hate mac, it works almost 100% of the time.

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