After installation of KB4056892 boot failure, after roll-back error 0x800f0845

Anonymous
2018-01-04T22:13:27+00:00

Hi,

I have older AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+, Asus MB, after installation of KB4056892 the system doesn't boot, it only shows the Windows logo without animation and nothing more. After several failed boots it do roll-back then it shows error 0x800f0845. Unfortunately, it seems it's not easy to disable the automatic updates without gpedit tweaks, so it tries installing and rolling-back the update over and over. The sfc /scannow shows no problem, in-place upgrade also doesn't seem to help. I can try full reinstall, but I doubt it will change anything. It seems like the update is binary incompatible with my old CPU. I understand that making the machine unbootable is the best protection from remote exploitation, but I would rather have the OS working. Especially if my CPU is not vulnerable to the Meltdown attack and the MS mitigation attempts for Spectre is more than questionable. I could find only some German and Italian people reporting the same issue (well the CPU is quite pre-historic and the KB update is very fresh), but no info / acknowledgment from the MS so far. I have Czech localization. Could anybody provide more information?

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-01-19T16:10:07+00:00

    Hi just want to know how you installed the update? if i can't boot into windows how do i install or apply the update?

    I am confused on how to apply a updated if my computer wont boot in to windows

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  2. Anonymous
    2018-01-19T16:04:10+00:00

    You mean KB4073290?

    KB4073290 is for x64/64bit and KB4073291 is for X86/32bit, and boot updates solved the same issue with AMD Athlon 64 and related CPUs with unbootable status caused by KB4056892.

    Melerix, thanks for your help through this shambles. I have a 2008 Toshiba Satelite with a Turion 64 X2. I ran into trouble installing KB4073290 so I hope what I've outlined below may help if anyone else has similar trouble.

    I downloaded the update as a standalone and installed it. It took forever. When "complete" I restarted as asked and then found I was back to Jan4th and what happened with KB4056892: restart ended with the computer switching itself off before BIOS loaded. And again. And again. So I disconnected power and battery and again restarted. Windows started to load, declared itself broken and went into repair mode, eventually saying it couldn't self repair.  Having had to reset on Jan4th, I went for the "continue to Windows 10" option. Shut down by itself again. I thought all was lost at this stage but again removed all power sources and tried restart. Used F12 this time and after going through boot screens this time Windows started to load again, then a blue screen telling me the update was only at 89%! Left it to continue and it went through to 100%, restarted and I now have a computer running  build 16299.194, as it should be.

    Hope it doesn't happen to anyone else but, if so, nil desperandum.

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  3. Anonymous
    2018-01-19T15:35:14+00:00

    ok I have downloaded windows 10 on my flash drive. now how do i installed these updates (KB4073290 is for x64/64bit and KB4073291 is for X86/32bit, and boot updates solved the same issue with AMD Athlon 64 and related CPUs with unbootable status caused by KB4056892) to fix my problem if i can't boot into windows?

     I am just looking for a step by step.

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  4. Monkey57 3,535 Reputation points
    2018-01-19T15:03:55+00:00

    My interpretation, is that the problem started with KB4051963, as earlier coding could not anticipate future changes..... and that x86, required complete replacement of additional patches....... 

    Understanding that KB4073290 is Cumulative, I know KB4056892 is not on many devices.  That being said, my question is -> How Cumulative is KB4073290? 

    Nice to know a fix was put out with quick intense cooperation, thank you MS & AMD.......

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  5. Monkey57 3,535 Reputation points
    2018-01-19T13:55:41+00:00

    You mean KB4073290?

    KB4073290 is for x64/64bit and KB4073291 is for X86/32bit, and boot updates solved the same issue with AMD Athlon 64 and related CPUs with unbootable status caused by KB4056892.

    Thank you for the info, although I am confused:

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4073290/unbootable-state-for-amd-devices-in-windows-10-version-1709

    Has been interpreted as the fix for Win10 x64 AMD X2 unbootable state.

    Update Details

    2018-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for x64-based Systems (KB4073290)

    Last Modified: 1/17/2018

    "Architecture: AMD64 , X86"

    "Package Details-Replaces-2017-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for x64-based Systems (KB4051963)"

    &

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-nz/help/4073291/january-18-2018-kb4073291-os-build-16299-201

    Has been interpreted as the fix for Win10 x86 AMD X2 unbootable state.

    "This update provides additional protections for 32-Bit (x86) version of Windows 10 1709 after you install January 3, 2018—KB4056892 (OS Build 16299.192)"

    "Last Modified: 1/18/2018"

    "Architecture: AMD64 , X86"

    "Package Details-Replaces:

    2017-10 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for x86-based Systems (KB4043961)

    2017-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for x86-based Systems (KB4048955)

    2017-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for x86-based Systems (KB4051963)

    2017-12 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for x86-based Systems (KB4054517)

    2018-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for x86-based Systems (KB4056892)"

    Are you sure KB4073290 replaces for the x64 OS, all the packages KB4073291 replaces???

    EDIT:  This question is also directed at any MS engineer that may be watching this thread...

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