After installation of KB4056892 boot failure, after roll-back error 0x800f0845

Anonymous
2018-01-04T22:13:27+00:00

Hi,

I have older AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+, Asus MB, after installation of KB4056892 the system doesn't boot, it only shows the Windows logo without animation and nothing more. After several failed boots it do roll-back then it shows error 0x800f0845. Unfortunately, it seems it's not easy to disable the automatic updates without gpedit tweaks, so it tries installing and rolling-back the update over and over. The sfc /scannow shows no problem, in-place upgrade also doesn't seem to help. I can try full reinstall, but I doubt it will change anything. It seems like the update is binary incompatible with my old CPU. I understand that making the machine unbootable is the best protection from remote exploitation, but I would rather have the OS working. Especially if my CPU is not vulnerable to the Meltdown attack and the MS mitigation attempts for Spectre is more than questionable. I could find only some German and Italian people reporting the same issue (well the CPU is quite pre-historic and the KB update is very fresh), but no info / acknowledgment from the MS so far. I have Czech localization. Could anybody provide more information?

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-01-26T22:51:32+00:00

    MELERIX

    Short, concise and probably oversimplified.

    If a somewhat newer AMD system (Bulldozer series) was NOT  "stuck in Windows logo after first reboot",  then KB4056892 is the correct update?

    Thanks, it would help to know for sure.

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  2. Anonymous
    2018-01-26T21:14:25+00:00

    you are confusing things xD

    KB4073290 & KB4073291 both updates are cumulatives and do the same, these updates fix the bug that was causing some AMD CPUs stuck in Windows logo after first reboot.

    the main difference is that KB4073290 is for x64/64bits and KB4073291 is for x86/32bits.

    thats all.

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  3. Anonymous
    2018-01-26T20:22:10+00:00

    Brian

    I am also trying to understand what Microsoft is doing here.

     I can add some information as to KB4073291 for older AMD devices and  Win-10 32 Bit.

    With KB4056892 showing as Blocked I installed KB4073291 (The file size was app 330MB).

    After the Install  ...........

    KB4073291, (AMD Athlon X2 6000+ 32 Bit) results in Windows 10 build 1709 version 16299.201.

    I checked with Show/Hide and KB4056892 did not show as blocked any longer.  It was just plain gone!

    Checking for updates KB4056892 is NOT offered.  Good, it was a bad thing.

    On a newer machine, ( AMD fx-8150,  ASUS M5A97, Win-10 64 Bit) , KB4056892 only apparent  breakage is ASUS AI Suite 2.  There are folk with different ASUS MBs where KB4073290 resolves the problem with  ASUS AI Suite 2 and ASUS AI Suite 3.

    On the newer  machine "check for updates"  does not offer KB4073290.

    I may not be interested in restoring AI Suite (I like the workaround) ,  still the question remains.

    Does KB4073290 fix other ( as yet not noticed) breakage caused by KB4056892?

    I don't think I am willing to risk possible damage by manually installing KB4073290.

    Like you said, we will probably have to wait until February to find out if KB4073290 is a companion or a replacement.

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  4. Anonymous
    2018-01-26T12:41:04+00:00

    I have one question.

    Does KB4073290 actually  replace KB4056892 ,

    Looking at this https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4073290/unbootable-state-for-amd-devices-in-windows-10-version-1709 it states this.

    "Update replacement information

    This update does not replace a previously released update."

     I have KB4056892 hidden so it would not try install again.

    Joe

    Joe

    The MS Update Catalogue actually says 4073290 replaces November's update! Whatever, it does effectively replace 4056892 (or possibly embody it) and you shouldn't see it again once 3290 is installed. Link to the standalone update is:

    https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4073290

    in case you haven't got it. It's huge - 600MB - so seems almost to be a reload rather than an update.

    If you look through the last several pages, a lot of people have now satisfactorily installed 4073290 (for 64-bit systems only) but only when we all get to February's updates will we know for sure whether we're back to stability.

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  5. Anonymous
    2018-01-26T01:48:56+00:00

    I have one question.

    Does KB4073290 actually  replace KB4056892 ,

    Looking at this https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4073290/unbootable-state-for-amd-devices-in-windows-10-version-1709 it states this.

    "Update replacement information

    This update does not replace a previously released update."

     I have KB4056892 hidden so it would not try install again.

    Joe

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