Pen behavior in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update

Anonymous
2018-01-10T12:59:32+00:00

Ever since installing the Fall Creators Update, using a pen on a tablet or laptop screen doesn’t behave as it did before.  Instead of selecting text or files, the pen now scrolls.

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2018-01-10T13:03:40+00:00

The Fall Creators Update implements a new interaction design to better utilize the features available to most pens in the marketplace. No pen behaviors were removed, but some actions have been reassigned to make pen behave more consistently across Windows. Previously, pen tip performed a wide variety of actions, from selection to drag-n-drop to content manipulation, while barrel button function was underutilized in the system. In the Fall Creators Update, we are making the barrel button more useful by assigning it selection and drag-n-drop functionality, while making the pen tip more useful for content manipulation, like scrolling. While these changes might seem uncomfortable at first, they make pen a more versatile tool that enhances current user experience and will enable future exciting experiences. 

Although pen is most useful for inking, in places where inking does not make sense or is not yet available, pen can now directly manipulate content the way your finger does. This functionality is available to most applications, such as File Explorer, Edge, or Start Menu, where you can now scroll without the help of a scrollbar and manipulate text selection through grippers. This change eliminates the need to hunt-and-peck for UI elements and prevents users from constantly switching between pen and other input modalities.

Barrel button also gained meaning in the Fall Creators update. Now, no matter what you want to select within the system, whether it is text in Edge, ink in OneNote, or files in File Explorer, you can do it by pressing the barrel button and dragging. Drag-n-drop with the pen is just as easy – press the barrel button, grab an object with the pen tip, and drag it to a new location. 

Making behavioral changes is always difficult. To avoid confusion and bad user experience, we worked with software developers, both internal and external, to properly react to the pen changes. While we reached out to most developers that see considerable pen usage in their applications, we did not hear back from all. If your favorite application is behaving incorrectly since the latest update, please report it by emailing WindowsInk@microsoft.com and we will work with the developer to correct any issues.

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-02-01T19:15:41+00:00

    This change is unwarranted and, in many use cases, plain wrong.

    Let's say you have a device...let's call it a Surface Pro....a tablet....that is often used *as a tablet*, without a keyboard attached. In this case, our user interface experience includes ten fingers and a pen device. In order for the pen device to function in the most efficient and compatible way possible, the device -- when in its default configuration (meaning that some app has not said "Mr. Pen, you are a paintbrush today") -- needs to behave like a mouse, clicking, dragging, and selecting items on the screen.

    It does NOT need to behave like an 11th finger. There are ten of those already available for me to use, I do not need an eleventh.

    Prior to the newer Creator's update, the Surface pen (and its Windows Ink brethren) behaved, more or less, like the mice they were supposed to emulate. Now they do not; they behave like another finger. Now...I'm not saying "don't try new things," but I am asking for you to include the ability for us to disable (or even better: give us the option to opt into, not force us into) the new thing if it doesn't work for us.

    Please enhance pen functionality, do not hinder it and call it progress.

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  2. Anonymous
    2018-02-02T12:08:39+00:00

    It does NOT need to behave like an 11th finger. There are ten of those already available for me to use, I do not need an eleventh.

    So true. These things are so obvious, how stupid the latest MS innovations sometimes are. Not only they don't have testers at all, they have no any user experience research as well. It looks like someone just wake up in the morning with a 'great' idea and there's no matter for them if it is really good, if  this idea brings a good experience to users... They don't care.They just don't ask users... These feedback features, Insider Preview... this all just doesn't work at all, because no user feedback and needs is respected.

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  3. Anonymous
    2018-02-04T06:11:54+00:00

    How freakin' ridiculous!

    I don't care about "uncomfortable" new methods. I just want my Pen Flicks back, not your stupid scrolling. 

    I've always had my Surface Pen flicks set up to do useful things when I'm in tablet mode, using just my Pen with no mouse connected.

    I had Cut, Copy, Paste, & Delete set up so i could easily flick to perform quick actions instead of having to "press screen, copy, press screen, paste" (for example).

    Now, since the Fall update, the ONLY flicks that work are directional ones (scroll up and down). Nothing else works for my Flicks.

    Thanks Microsoft for unilaterally TELLING me how I need to work, STOPPING me from working how I want, and giving me NO option to opt out of your downgraded functionality. 

    Please bring back Pen Flicks beyond just scrolling - It's a very useful tool for Tablet mode

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  4. Anonymous
    2018-02-04T23:14:26+00:00

    For those who would like to have the option to disable pen scrolling, please click the link below and upvote this issue on Windows Feedback Hub. 

    Link to Feedback Hub Pen Scrolling Issue: Windows Feedback Hub

    • After clicking the link, Launch Applications will popup.
    • Make sure Feedback Hub is selected and click on "Open Link"
    • Click on "Upvote" so Windows can work on fixing it

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