Pen behavior in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update

Anonymous
2018-01-10T12:59:32+00:00

Ever since installing the Fall Creators Update, using a pen on a tablet or laptop screen doesn’t behave as it did before.  Instead of selecting text or files, the pen now scrolls.

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2018-01-10T13:03:40+00:00

The Fall Creators Update implements a new interaction design to better utilize the features available to most pens in the marketplace. No pen behaviors were removed, but some actions have been reassigned to make pen behave more consistently across Windows. Previously, pen tip performed a wide variety of actions, from selection to drag-n-drop to content manipulation, while barrel button function was underutilized in the system. In the Fall Creators Update, we are making the barrel button more useful by assigning it selection and drag-n-drop functionality, while making the pen tip more useful for content manipulation, like scrolling. While these changes might seem uncomfortable at first, they make pen a more versatile tool that enhances current user experience and will enable future exciting experiences. 

Although pen is most useful for inking, in places where inking does not make sense or is not yet available, pen can now directly manipulate content the way your finger does. This functionality is available to most applications, such as File Explorer, Edge, or Start Menu, where you can now scroll without the help of a scrollbar and manipulate text selection through grippers. This change eliminates the need to hunt-and-peck for UI elements and prevents users from constantly switching between pen and other input modalities.

Barrel button also gained meaning in the Fall Creators update. Now, no matter what you want to select within the system, whether it is text in Edge, ink in OneNote, or files in File Explorer, you can do it by pressing the barrel button and dragging. Drag-n-drop with the pen is just as easy – press the barrel button, grab an object with the pen tip, and drag it to a new location. 

Making behavioral changes is always difficult. To avoid confusion and bad user experience, we worked with software developers, both internal and external, to properly react to the pen changes. While we reached out to most developers that see considerable pen usage in their applications, we did not hear back from all. If your favorite application is behaving incorrectly since the latest update, please report it by emailing WindowsInk@microsoft.com and we will work with the developer to correct any issues.

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-03-10T05:41:25+00:00

    Am I to understand, after just ordering  a Wacom tablet for the first time, that it will not work correctly either?

    If that is the case, I guess I will be digitizing on my Windows Compaq TC1000. It's the only non window tablet in this house. 

    Dear Heavens, what are we all going to do.  How many people suddenly cannot do their job? I wish I could just order a Cintiq.  

    Has anyone moved to a Mac?  The software I use for my work is supported on a Mac.  I guess I will start looking into this.  MS has known this problem exists for months now and nothing has changed.  Has anyone even heard from them?  Are they working on trying to make the change? Does anyone know anything; are they going to try to give it back to us?

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  2. Anonymous
    2018-03-03T06:00:11+00:00

    ... No news?

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  3. Anonymous
    2018-02-26T12:52:09+00:00

    Sorry but this unnecessary improvement has no sense and it's very bad for creative users. It's very worrisome to see Microsoft taking this path because it limits so much the use of the pen. I hope MS fix it at least giving the user an option. 

    What's wrong?

    . While these changes might seem uncomfortable at first, they make pen a more versatile tool that enhances current user experience and will enable future exciting experiences. 

    • Sorry but the changes are permanently uncomfortable.

    Although pen is most useful for inking, in places where inking does not make sense or is not yet available, pen can now directly manipulate content the way your finger does.

    • there is inking and there is manipulation of shapes, handles, gadgets in creative software to make illustrations, for instance. There is note input and manipulation in music making software, including handwriting which is now broken unless they recode it, there are sliders, knobs, clip in/out edges and little controllers in a timeline in video or audio editing. All of this is broken or unconfortable at current state. MS should have asked and researched before such a drastic change. Pen now can't ”manipulate content”, instead, it prevents manipulating content because now it scrolls the window, which can be easily done by finger.

    This functionality is available to most applications, such as File Explorer, Edge, or Start Menu, where you can now scroll without the help of a scrollbar and manipulate text selection through grippers. This change eliminates the need to hunt-and-peck for UI elements and prevents users from constantly switching between pen and other input modalities.

    • not true, the ”functionality” breaks almost every existing application, and now a mouse seems necessary.

    Barrel button also gained meaning in the Fall Creators update. Now, no matter what you want to select within the system, whether it is text in Edge, ink in OneNote, or files in File Explorer, you can do it by pressing the barrel button and dragging. Drag-n-drop with the pen is just as easy – press the barrel button, grab an object with the pen tip, and drag it to a new location. 

    • this is non sense. Give the button a function just because? This functionality only makes mandatory the use of the barrel button where it wasn't needed, makes it uncomfortable to use, and worst, kills the functionality the button already had, like right-button or modifier key. How come it is ”just as easy” to hold a button while dragging a pen? how about how easy is NOT having to hold the button?

    Making behavioral changes is always difficult. To avoid confusion and bad user experience, we worked with software developers, both internal and external, to properly react to the pen changes. While we reached out to most developers that see considerable pen usage in their applications, we did not hear back from all. If your favorite application is behaving incorrectly since the latest update, please report it by emailing *** Email address is removed for privacy *** and we will work with the developer to correct any issues.

    • You should have worked with USERS. Nor I nor the developers of the software I use the most seem to be happy, nor were asked. Adobe is one of them. Unfortunately this change is so radical that it completely spoils my workflow. I read the same thing from some many users, and the few that agree with these changes are unlikely to be 'creators', specially among the arts. I will not be able to wait Microsoft to understand and undo this or at least offer an alternative. And I made the mistake of deleting the older windows versions to make room so I'll now have to go back to Windows 8.1 on my Surface Pro, and this time I will stay there.

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  4. Anonymous
    2018-02-20T09:26:02+00:00

    I am working with much of legal documents and need to copy & paste, delete text, also I could undo any edits immediately. I could copy & paste and delete (or even undo) files in Explorer or on the Desktop. Now when flicks got broken I can do none of that. Where is improvement here?

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