Solitaire collection events cheating

Hi,

Peerhaps you can explain something to me.

Todays event finished, and the reults were shown as me being 10th (or around there), then I clicked on the leader board and I was 140000.

DO you know why this happens, as I have sen it before.

cheers

terry

Terry, 

Before the event ends, they show your local board score on the bottom of the page.  If you click on the Top 100 tab, they show the top 100 at that time...if you are on that list...yeah, they'll show you there, but the position on the bottom of the page will still be your local score/position. They never show your overall world wide position until the event ends...and even then you have to click on the Top 100 tab to get your world wide position. Click on your local board tab and they list your position there on the bottom of the page.

So, when I finished playing on Friday, I was 8th. I checked the Top 100 at the time....I was nowhere near their times. When the event ended, I was 11th on my local board, but 16,000 when I clicked on the Top 100 tab.

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for that.

Used to be 10 on the 100 leader board, but no more.

Still I enjoy playing and I can take my time if I am not competing with the cheats.

thanks again

cheers

terry

WOah - you have AceMechanic in 1st, 3rd and 4th position plus you have PaltryAmeba another doggie. 

Yep - reports coming in here since 2015  

Anything done about it?  No.  So it is a space for players to grieve the death of honest players.

Hey SteveSainty, I want to let you know that you are not alone in your scrutiny of the top scorers in Solitaire Tournaments.  Having just checked the "TOP 100" taba few minutes ago I am still quietly laughing to myself in response to how many people are completing the tournies in such hard to believe times.  Here's why I'm laughing to myself.  At first it kind of made me irritated because I thought well that's unfair, it's cheating. I say it's cheating because even though I possess no advanced knowledge in the game of solitaire I do have doctorate in Psychology and therefore greatly understand brain processing involved in goal-oriented, rule-based, tasks or games.  I am sure that the most advanced solitaire players officially ranked worldwide could finish the tournament in similar times obviously without cheating.  Having played such an unimaginably large number of the card games they will inevitably make use of pattern recognition drawing from games already played as well as techniques central to the game built around time efficiency , minimizing likelihood of errors and maximizing probability of accurate non dead end moves.  If someone isnot a professional player or an expert in the field they might also finish in record time if they possess savant qualities.  This typically occurs, but is not limited to, individuals who have been diagnosed with an Autism Spectrum Disorder.  However, savant qualities are rare in general, and they are unlimited in the kinds of specific quality the likelihood that so many young adults with such a rarely occurring ability ( remember this is to rare within the diagnosis of Autism to possess such qualities and ever more rare in individuals who do not carry such diagnosis.  All this leaves me with two possible conclusions:

1.   Many expert/professional solitaire players are participating in the tournaments. But this would only count for the adult players say age 18 years and older.  So, the players under 18 would be either really talented players who are likely already involved in clubs or tournaments for young adults but this is not necessary. Lastly, some of the young players could also possess savant qualities though we are talked very small percentage of top 100.
2. People are cheating by getting the solutions via internet cheat websites and using the solutions to solve the games very quickly.

So back to my smiling and laughing to myself.  If my first conclusion is indeed the correct one then I am in some fantastic company when I play Microsoft tournaments!   This would mean that I am competing against some of the most advanced professional and non professional players alive today.  This would be pretty cool I think.   I can assure you that if I knew this to be true I would enjoy playing even that much more as my improvements would be very meaningful considering I was reducing the gap between me and the Solitaire Greats so-to-speak.  But I doubt this is true.   

This means that the second conclusion is likely the more accurate one.  But I am still smiling and laughing to myself.   Tournament players who are using cheats are actually playing a different game than I am against a different set of players.  The top players with the shortest times might be doing some variation of the following:  Finding solutions via cheat sites and watching the solution for a game, then practicing the game on a separate device or different user account until he or she can complete it lightening fast.  maybe jotting down some notes for quick reference during the tournament.  I am sure some others are simply using a secondary device to live play solutions while they enter them into their tournament play but someone who can play by memory after practicing would easily complete the tournament in half the time I am guessing.  So, if there is at least more than one person cheating in this fashion they have successfully created their own sub game against only others who are cheating for the goal being to have the shorted solve time.   Here is the good news, I don't think people who use cheat sites even think much about the players who don't cheat. They wouldn't get any satisfaction out of their score when compared to a non cheating player because we played a different game entirely.   And the same vice versa. I must say I am impressed that those players have clearly invested a significant amount of time into their version of the tournament and at that, the top scorers have some skills and techniques worth acknowledgement. 

We'll never be able to separate the number of different sub game players (there are plausibly far more sub games than I mentioned ) and so I will end with what I do when I finish a tournament.  First of all, I am really impressed with myself each time I complete a full tournament. Sometimes I don't have the patience or enough time to set aside or enough time left on tournament clock.  I'm impressed because in the beginning of my tournament playing days I often could NOT solve the advanced puzzle. I have grown more skilled as a player and my experience playing is so much more enjoyable.  I find familiar patterns and enjoy conquering at those times while sometimes I see something I've come across before yet can't recall how to overcome the challenge.  This peaks my self driven competiveness to become a better player and be sure to digest this solution strategy so I can be victorious on the first try next time. The second thing I do is wait for the final results and when I look at my name and rank I take a minute to look at the players who finished right before and after me.  I kind of give them a mental head nod  signifying "good job" because I know they likely played for the same enjoyment and scored about the same as me and I'm feeling good myself at that moment, even it it's just a minute before it's back to the daily routine.  It's mine and no one can take it away from me.  It helps to keep my brain skills sharp and it gives me mental if not always physical space from the ever digitally connected world we live in.  

My final thought is that inherent in its name Solitaire declares that is it is game for just one player, your self.    

Hi, Just wanted tell SockMonkey how much  I love your reply.  I have flown through some of the tournaments, don't cheat and have yet to break the top 100.  I figure that people have multiple accounts (and time apparently!) to play multiple times, check for answers etc. but it really doesn't matter because I'm not playing against them. My game is proudly to compete using only my wits (or lack thereof!) and see how I do.  I love it when I do well, sigh when  I fail miserably (I ALWAYS take the wrong path on Tripeaks) and it's fun.    Everything you said it true and hears to all the competitors who play their own game!