- Remember champ that a lone amateur built the Ark ++ you can not generalize the market share to less than 0.1%, because Microsoft has not promoted globally its phones ++ so there are powerful Windows Phone markets around 1% market share, e,g. USA, Russian Federation, Vietnam (the former production facility was there), even UK well above 0.5%, France or Italy ++ Windows Phone is on the radar even if the competition delivers over 1.5 billion devices (in 2018 alone), so the loyalists see no reason to abandon a functional & sustainable phone ++ probably there is little chance to convince you unless #Joe from Microsoft comes out with a great tweet (better than the one from late 2017) //
++ the future of Microsoft Lumia mobile phones ++
++ the manufacturing process of Microsoft Lumia mobile phones is discontinued, but many of them are still in action and competitive. In my opinion, the timing for their launch alongside the first versions of Windows 10 mobile has been a problem (later versions of Windows 10 mobile are more competitive). I compare the path of Microsoft Lumia phones with the path of Mercedes F1 Team. If you have perseverance, you can win, but you need to have realistic intermediary goals. You must not be number one from the start, but rather be on the field, with competitive, distinctive devices (1% market share can be achieved with the core fans of Microsoft Windows). 1% is not a small number of users & translates to even more when we focus on Windows users. So my question is for Microsoft & fans // is it possible to continue the manufacturing process of Microsoft Lumias for the fans of the brand & Windows ? // ++ #theWindowsthatneversleeps +
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RedSpook-9082 4,765 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator2019-01-24T23:25:52+00:00 93tid The Microsoft announcement that they are abandoning the mobile platform will drive the prices down. Duh. Its simple market.
Clearly you know nothing about the history of Wileyfox or Windows 10 Mobile. The Pro was released AFTER MS announced they are abandoning the mobile platform, which was back in November 2017, not now. Duh. It was specifically aimed at businesses - according to Wileyfox's own marketing for the 'Pro', aimed at "Automotive, Education, Government, Healthcare, Logistics, Retail, Telecommunications, Transportation". Wileyfox quotes four main attractions: productivity (boiling down to Office 365, OneDrive, etc.), security (Device Guard, Store-only apps, Bitlocker), Cortana, and support - double Duh. Clearly far from a raging success.
Market share - less than 0.1%
Developers have been very clear about the direction of the platform for years, which is why the smart ones dumped it a long time ago.
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2019-01-24T23:19:42+00:00 +Lumia 950s are still powerful phones capable of running even Windows 10 ARM (without the phone capability) https://www.windowslatest.com/2019/01/23/you-can-install-windows-10-arm-on-lumia-950-xl-with-new-third-party-tool/
- Wiley Fox is a typical company fleet phone, but can be compared to Lumia 650, but Lumia in general scores better. Nevertheless Wiley Fox is a UK brand so should do its job ++ its initial price was exaggerated as has cost more than the Lumia 650 //
- supported Lumia devices & much of the Lumia fleet running Windows 10 mobile can perform quite well until at least March 2020 ++ so heads up ++ after this term extra caution is needed, but the phones will not go extinct //
++ thanks for the constructive contributions & for the history lesson provided by CFORDG ++ I also think that there are similarities & Windows Phone has needed an enthusiastic Gates to foster the mobile business (nowadays the champion entrepreneur has other initiatives, e.g. innovative waste recycling without sewage systems, which can be useful in places which lack sewage infrastructure or in space) //
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Anonymous
2019-01-24T19:32:46+00:00 DisplayLink on Android check this: Link
Enables one DisplayLink display up to 1920x1080
DisplayLink Audio supported
DisplayLink's wired Ethernet connection is not currently supported
Android devices cannot currently enable USB and charge at the same time. This means it will not be possible for your Android device to charge while docked to a DisplayLink enabled docking station.
I use my Idol 4 pro (the Windows 10 Mobile one) with docking station (Wavlink WL-UHP3D01G) regularly, and not only the display works but my touch screen works as well. Not to mention the additional 1GB ethernet port and charging. Why would I want to move to other device?
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Anonymous
2019-01-24T15:51:50+00:00 Unfortunately, this reminds me too much of the story of the IBM PC.
IBM was an established vendor of big-iron systems when a small internal group somehow got into the position of getting a small system onto the market which was known as the IBM-PC. The tension between the big-iron guys and the small system group remained even as it became apparent that the PC wasn't a passing fad, but the core issue was that the big-iron guys didn't really like dealing with the public and the messiness of that marketplace. Eventually the big-iron guys won the internal political struggle and IBM shut down its PC business by selling the assets to China; et voila!! "Lenovo"!! Arguably, it was not the best decision by IBM, but it is a lesson in corporate politics.
MS really solidified its early position by writing PC-DOS for IBM, but the genius of Gates was negotiating with IBM to allow MS to write MS-DOS for everyone else which meant that MS got a small piece of every PC-compatible system sold. In addition, Gates could foresee the development of programs that were eventually to become platform-independent where that independence became a major selling point. What we have today as Office 365 has roots directly back to that foresight.
The operating systems from MS over the years have varied in quality leading to WINDOWS 10 with its associated update problems - problems which we with WIN10 cell phones are well aware of. In addition, cell phones are physical devices with all of the separate production and development issues that come with that territory and this is even more pronounced with "smartphones". By the time MS took this on, Apple and various other manufacturers running Android were well into both the game and market share. The app issues we complain about are often directly related to the slow release of SDK packages in the early days and the headaches that "death by update" have meant for developers.
When a CRM developer I know, who works for an MS partner company, attended an MS presentation a few years ago, he noticed that MS presenters weren't using WIN10 phones to show off the cloud integration; most were using iPhones and a few had Android devices. You shouldn't find it hard to guess what his next cell phone was.
MS has made it plain that they see a more clear and profitable path into the future with Azure and cloud-based operations where they are writing interfaces for systems with a minimum of the messiness of dealing with public and the marketplace.