++ the future of Microsoft Lumia mobile phones ++

I agree that the problems were and are tractable and a company like MS *should* have been able to solve them, they have *chosen* not to because that's what makes sense to them as a business. I wasn't in the meeting so can't say why but if they had asked I would have said stick with it for all the positive points made in this thread and because they have a small but loyal following which may have swung the market at some point.  However it's not my money I would be burning so I have to respect their decision.

I agree it's possible they may change their minds but that would be very different from the Lumia/W10M we talk about in this interminable thread and I'm not stretching any illusion to point out that they have a) said they don't want to maintain mobile b) stopped Lumia production c) canned (at least for now) the 'surface phone' project. Its also not stretching anything to say that for all I admire about them they have been spectacularly poor at managing mass market perceptions since the anti-trust discussions, they managed to lose a hugely dominant position on xbox and become steadily less relevant on the desktop/laptop in the face of a fast moving market they keep alienating.

I would be very pleased if they turned this around, I've been a supporter of them for many years and don't want that investment wasted, but they show no appetite for change and have become exactly what Bill Gates hated about IBM; stodgy, over regulated and short on innovative ideas. That doesn't mean they will fail, just that they won't find it easy to change as rapidly as the mobile mass market requires so perhaps the decision to move away from that market is the correct one.

• Windows 10 mobile is only a point on the Smartphone radar, but it is important to be on the radar (the market share could look very small, but maybe it is proportional with the effort invested in manufacturing & marketing, including distribution) // if there is courage & vision, then version 1809 has to be launched //

My take on the future of windows is this I pay for OneDrive I'm sure others do the cloud ☁ was invented for mobile devices if your stationed it's a cord around you need mobile devices for the cloud case closed 😚

But who is this 'we' who will build on it? If you are out there putting the f1 app back onto  uwp then i take my hat off to you, that's a string statement of your passion but I'd you are just meeting this thread in the hour that Ms will listen to us you arefooling yourself

• if this is a Windows Phone in Stacy Johnson's use, then we can see that it makes a lot of sense for the company to continue development, appreciate the little user base & reinvent "feature2" https://a.msn.com/r/2/BBMybnW?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare //

or this link http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/lifestylevideo/getting-a-discount-on-everything-you-buy-in-stores/vi-BBMybnW //