++ the future of Microsoft Lumia mobile phones ++

• when you have Lumia in hand, only you forget who you are, but when you do not have any Lumia in your hand, the whole world forgets who you are. Here is a slightly modified version of a well-known Bill Gates quote & I hope Microsoft will recognize the importance of Windows Mobile's potential  // the quote can be applicable in some way also for the fans, in the sense that Microsoft Lumia helps us on a daily basis & without Windows Phone, the future of Windows will suffer. I have once compared Windows 10 mobile with Messi 10 (that is because even when he plays really poorly, he still draws the attention of 2-3 opposing players, so the rest of the team has some clear air to breathe).

8 on the 640 XL was the best they did. The 950 line on 8 would be a much better phone, with apps that actually work. 

They really don't have decent tech anymore. The Surface line never recorded a penny of profit before Microsoft decided not to release that info anymore. Still can't imagine its in the black. Windows is a big bloated mess. Sorry, but no OS should be using up over 15gb of storage. And Mobile 10 was even worse, at least in comparison with the tiny amount of storage available on those "flagship" Windows phones. 

About the only thing Microsoft has going for it is Xbox and that is shaky. 

I really can't think of any tech that Microsoft has thats is even remotely interesting. AR? for $2000 and up? And still unstable? nope. The Hub? Give me a nice big TV and a remote mouse and I'll beat it. What else is there?

Microsoft is a perfect match with windows phone - well yes in the same way that Apple is a perfect match with IOS but that doesn't really add much

Pulling out of manufacturing phones was a mistake - but thats the decision they made so we have to live with it

Windows phone needs OEM - yes, but it has none and no-one is lining up to start because MS have cancelled Mobile

*IF* they took the monumental decision to reverse the discussions of the past few years and *IF* they put another shed load of money behind it then they *might* get some realistic share of the market and that *might* get others to risk their own money but they aren't competitive in Mobile because they are no longer in Mobile.

The platform has no future *unless* Microsoft choose to give it a future 

a development that takes 5 years to mature is not spectacular, with money and time you can make any software work but the market didn't wait and now its looking fairly dated, there are some nice touches and I still like it but can we see one single aspect of it that isn't available and/or better developed elsewhere?

Turning Lumia into a bold success would be more than a success story it would be like resurrecting the dodo, that's not because I don't want them to try it's just where we are.

Your enthusiasm is great but you have to face reality - If the Lumia brand continues at all it will be ONLY a brand name - in the same way BMW Mini shares only a name with the original Leyland Mini. Imagine that MS decide today that it was all a big mistake, a new phone in the Lumia line has to be designed and manufactured which will take at least a year and by that time there will have been new Pixel, Samsung and iPhone - what will MS do to make their new phone appeal to the people who have just invested in those new phones and if they can think of it now what didn't they think of it before?

+ https://www.windowslatest.com/2018/09/09/windows-10-mobile-version-1809-gets-mentioned-in-bluetooth-sig-but-it-means-nothing/ ++ Maybe it will be something, the faithful supporters of Microsoft Lumia deserve a Christmas present (Windows Phone owners in general should be benefiting from discounts for new Lumia devices from 2020 ++ some say there is nothing, but a quote from 93tid signifies that a couple years are a great timeframe in smartphone history, so carry on) //

• a big mistake had been committed in the launching process of Microsoft Lumia 950s + 550 : it is the Jurassic fallen kingdom video for Continuum presentation ++ some fans here, including myself, would have opted for some competition related theme, e.g. Formula 1 or Disney Pixar Cars or Asphalt*8*airborne or winter sports, because after all we are talking about Lumia & we need a controlled market share avalanche // ... a new version of Windows 10 mobile can be the launching force of this process //+ Asphalt8 +

I know, I'm using it :) I misread 1809 and hilarity ensued.