Bug that forces you to set a pin when installing Windows 10

hi  the whole sync onedrive  feature of windows is one of the most annoying things i dislike about windows..  once you login you have to immediately  disable  it to prevent sync .. and then  disable  onedrive so it doesnt start with pc..

you can prevent sync by logging  into your microsoft account online and disable it from there..

which i later learned..

but for me its a feature i dont want and never need or use..

why  is it turned on and so difficult to say no too..  

i reinstalled windows the otherday.. and after it was updated  and ready to use i had to go into programs and remove approximately 20 programs and games windows had installed..

all things i have no need for..  with the help of ccleaner  i was able to remove,  groove, onedrive, xbox  etc etc..  

maybe  during the windows installation  there could be check boxes   like with cortana, what programs  to install...

its like buying a hp or acer or toshiba  computer now with all the bloatware 

im also anti cloud as much as possible,  i understand it has its uses..  and sometimes its great.. 

but i dont like it when its not on my terms..  afterall its my  information and personal  things

thats being uploaded..  and just maybe  i dont want it in the cloud.. ..

I totally agree but what a cr*p knee-jerk liability play it is.   We are now forced to sign in to our Win 10 laptops/desktops with our Microsoft accounts - email address and password, and then set a PIN which most people will assume to be 4-digit numeric.   So if anyone steals a laptop now, instead of a proper password, all the have to guess is a 4 digit numeric.

To make things even worse, when the 1803 update failed on my laptop, when I finally ended up having to restore the entire operating system, I finally got to copy my files over from win.old to my new (now also <Removed>  user profile) folders, Microsoft had set the newly installed One Drive to automatically copy every folder I had just moved to my newly<Removed> profile name, into One Drive.  I didn't realise this until I started to wonder what the weird little icon was in the task bar.    So everything, photos, private documents, everything I definitely didn't want stored in the cloud was being grabbed by Microsoft's software and uploaded to goodness' knows where, ready to be hacked whenever anyone fancied a stab.

I still haven't resolved my messed up local profile name, Microsoft defaulted it to the first 5 letters of my email address without even asking me if that was what I wanted.   I know cannot change it nor create another user profile without adding yet another email address and setting up yet another Microsoft account, which I don't want to do.   I used to run Vista, logged in with a unique local password, all my files were stored in my own user profile and backed up to a portable hard drive, which I was perfectly happy with.   Now it seems, my personal files are at risk, from online hacking and if my laptop gets stolen.

How has Microsoft been able to just get away with destroying hardware and software security and personal account integrity in just one disastrous update?

My guess is it's a liability play. They figured out that making everyone use their Microsoft account to log into Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 means that anyone who hacks your Microsoft account now has access to all info on all of your hardware devices they get their hands on (and perhaps even remotely, depending on whether you have remote desktop and/or OneDrive sharing enabled).

So they're trying to turn back the clock a bit to where people had a unique/disconnected password on every device they used. But their claim that this makes PINs safer is bull For one thing the pins default to numbers only (you have to toggle a setting in order to include letters), so they're already several degrees less secure than a strong account password. For another thing, do you really think most people are going to set strong, unique PINs on every Windows device they use? Of course not- most of them are just going to use "1111" because they're frustrated and now anyone who steals their laptop has instant access to all their files. And while it will be Microsoft's fault, they won't get the blame.

My wife's HP desktop has just started this rubbish.  When she logs on with her password, it goes to blue screen with wording about how much safer a pin is since it is only stored on the computer not in the cloud.  Clicking Next since there is no other way out of the screen takes us to another blue screen which eventually gives us the option of making a pin or 'Do this later'.  Doing it later means that she has to do it every time she logs on.  This is Windows 10 Home latest update.  My PC has Windows 10 Pro and does not give me the Pin screen (Yet).  Why did it start after the update had been in place for at least a week?  Why does it do it at all?  Why cant Microsoft let us make decisions for ourselves - I hate Macs for this very reason.  They do NOT know best.