I am watching all those laptop reviews, people saying they had the device for 2-3 weeks, they talk about keyboard, screen, fps, how amazing the laptop is bla bla bla, and NO ONE, NO ONE wants to tell the truth. If they are really using that device for so long its not possible that they dont see all of the problems optimus is causing. Is someone paying them to keep quiet? If yes, we are really in a deep sh.......
[Partially Fixed] Intel + NVIDIA Laptop Freeze Problem
Hi,
there is a problem with laptops which have Intel iGPU + GTX 1050/1050Ti/1060/1070. The problem is whenever you perform some action on the OS, discrete GPU is triggered and it causes a 0.5s freeze.
Some actions, which causes the dGPU to wake up and lock up the whole system for about 0,5 seconds are:
- Right click on desktop
- Left click on battery-icon in task-bar
- Opening Chrome-browser
- Opening Windows Image Viewer (app + classic Foto viewer)
- Opening system control panel
- Provocation any animation on task bar (e.g. thumbnail-preview, ...)
- Loading a new tab in Firefox
Since the problem was OS based, it could be found on all laptop brands: ASUS, Acer, Clevo, Dell, Gigabyte, HP, Lenovo, Microsoft, MSI, Razer.
This is nearly a three-year-old bug:
- August 25, 2015! MSI Forums
- August 31, 2016 NotebookReview
- Sep 1, 2016 NVIDIA
- Sep 2, 2016 Reddit
- Sep 8, 2016 LTT Forums
- Sep 29, 2016 Reddit
- May 3, 2017 Our Own Forums
Reported Models:
- Acer VN7-793G
- Acer Aspire 7 - A717-71G-75MG
- Acer Nitro 5 (AN515-51-536M)
- Acer Nitro 5, i5 7300HQ, GTX1050 Ti
- Acer Predator Helios 300 (PH317-51)
- Acer Predator Trtion 700 PT715-51-70Q2
- ASUS N580VD
- Asus GL503VD
- Asus GL503
- Asus GL553VE
- Alienware 13 R3
- Alienware 17 R4
- Avell Titanium G1570 Lite 4K
- Dell 7567
- Dell XPS L521x
- Dell Inspiron 15 Gaming 7577
- Dell 7510 (Early 2017)
- Dell XPS 9560
- Dell XPS 15 9570
- Dell G5 with i7 8th Gen
- Gigabyte Aero15W
- GIGABYTE P37XV6
- Gigabyte P35 v6
- Gigabyte Aero 14
- Gigabyte Aero 15
- HP Omen 15
- HP Omen HD630 + GTX1050
- HP Pavilion
- HP Pavilion Power 15-cb013ng
- HP Pavilion Power 15-cb007nq
- HP Spectre X360 15"
- HP ZBook 17 G4
- Lenovo Y720
- Lenovo Y520
- Lenovo W530
- Lenovo P51 Xeon
- Microsoft Surface Book 2 15"
- MSI GE63VR 7RF Raider 4K
- MSI GE62 HD4600+GXT960M
- MSI GE62VR 6RF Apache Pro
- MSI GE62 7RE
- MSI GS60 2PE
- MSI GS43VR 7RE
- MSI GS63VR 4K
- MSI GS73VR 7RG Stealth Pro
- MSI GS73VR 7RF
- MSI GS65 Stealth Thin 8RF
- MSI GP62MVR 7RF
- MSI GP62MVR 7RFX LEOPARD PRO
- MSI GE72MVR 7RG
- MSI GE73VR 7RE
- MSI GE73VR 7RF
- MSI GP72MVR
- MSI GX63VR
- MSI GE73 Raider RGB-012
- MSI PL62 7RC (MX150)
- Monster ABRA A7 V7.2 (Clevo)
- Monster Tulpar T7 13.1
- Monster Tulpar T5 V18.1 (Tongfang GK5CN6Z)
- Razer Blade 14
- Razer Blade 14 Late 2016
- Razer Blade 14 2017
- Razer Blade 2017
- Samsung Odyssey i7 7700 + GTX 1050
- XMG A517-dnj
- XMG P507
Effected Windows Versions:
| Version | Servicing option | Availability date | OS build | Latest revision date | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1803 | Semi-Annual Channel (Targeted) | 4/30/2018 | 17134.112 | 6/12/2018 | Latest |
| 1709 | Semi-Annual Channel | 1/18/2018 | 16299.492 | 6/12/2018 | |
| 1709 | Semi-Annual Channel (Targeted) | 10/17/2017 | 16299.492 | 6/12/2018 | |
| 1703 | Semi-Annual Channel | 7/11/2017 | 15063.1155 | 6/12/2018 | |
| 1703 | Current Branch (CB) | 4/11/2017 | 15063.1155 | 6/12/2018 | |
| 1607 | Current Branch for Business (CBB) | 11/29/2016 | 14393.2312 | 6/12/2018 | |
| 1607 | Current Branch (CB) | 8/2/2016 | 14393.2312 | 6/12/2018 | |
| 1607 | Long-Term Servicing Branch (LTSB) | 8/2/2016 | 14393.2312 | 6/12/2018 | |
| 1507 (RTM) | Long-Term Servicing Branch (LTSB) | 7/29/2015 | 10240.17889 | 6/12/2018 |
Partially Fixed as of June 26, 2018.
- Please Update to Windows 10 1803 Build 17134.165+
- Update Intel HD 630 driver to 24.20.100.6194+
- Update NVIDIA Driver to 398.36+
Hi everyone,
With the latest KB4284848 the problem is partially solved. The community and I have tested the build and we can confirm that it fixes most of the freezes.
There are still some problems though. Some freezes left within the Edge browser
and File Explorer. Please post your feedback!
Fixed:
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Sometimes opening Action Centre to see the notifications causes a freeze.Fixed with Windows 10 1803 Build 17134.137. -
Click on Safely remove hardware and it freezes!Fixed with Windows 10 1803 Build 17134.137. -
Opening Explorer triggers dGPU without causing a freeze.Fixed with NVIDIA GeForce Driver 397.93 -
Opening some store apps like Instagram for the first time.Fixed with Windows 10 1803 Build 17134.137. -
Turning ON Bluetooth first time after reboot freezes.Fixed with Windows 10 1803 Build 17134.165? -
Opening Windows Image Viewer (app + classic Foto viewer)~~>~~Fixed with Windows 10 1803 Build 17134.165? -
Starting slideshow in MS's own PowerPoint.Fixed with Windows 10 1803 Build 17134.165? -
First time opening Display Settings via right click triggers dGPU and causes a freeze.Fixed with Windows 10 1803 Build 17134.165? -
Start Menu > Shut Down > Triggers dGPU and freezes.Fixed with Windows 10 1803 Build 17134.165?
Not Fixed:
- Changing resolution > Still causing the lag sometimes.
- Locking the session (Win + L) triggers dGPU and makes a freeze every time.
- First time video playback with Edge triggers dGPU and causes a freeze.
Last Update: July 15th, 2018
Windows for home | Windows 10 | Performance and system failures
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Anonymous
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2018-04-13T14:20:54+00:00 Guys, you have to know that i had this problem with freeze even on Lenovo Z570 (i7-2670QM, Nvidia 540M) on Windows 10 (about 1-2 months ago)... So i think this problem is connected with Windows and Nvidia Optimus, but not only with new gen processors (like 6th,7th). Now i have Dell Inspiron 7577 (i5-7300hq, gtx 1060 max-q) and mouse freeze is still present. I've noticed when i delete Nvidia drivers (graphic card), the problem disappears.
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Anonymous
2018-04-11T13:59:49+00:00 problem is from everyone including manufacturers. Anyone who tolerate this is forger.
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Anonymous
2018-04-11T13:40:51+00:00 Nice logo :)
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Anonymous
2018-04-11T10:12:10+00:00 They don't care, no one cares. This is a minor issue to all of them, they will start thinking about it when you slap them will a class-action lawsuit. Until that time this issue will never be fixed.
Ok, that being said, I went back to windows 8.1. And there are no freezes here, when you open adjust image settings in nvidia, dgpu is ON, not fast switching idle/on/idle/on like in windows 10. Its not being triggered by right click, opening explorer from taskbar, closing chrome (new problem in 1803, worst update to date!). And the battery life is now doubled! BUT this is true if I install drivers ONLY from windows update(No nvidia physics software, and no geforce experience) !
If I update nvidia to new version I get back all of the idle triggers, right click on programs, opening explorer,videos in chrome and so on. Plus you have the same issue if you use intel chipset device software, and install those aditional chipset drivers in system devices, those are all pci express, smbus, xenon processor entries in device manager. I don't know if this will help anyone but I wanted to add it here.
P.s I forgot how fast win 8.1 is, plus you have full control over everything, just install classic shell and its 10x better than windows 10. So far so good!