Windows Update - How will it change your system?

Anonymous
2016-10-14T16:11:13+00:00

You need to make a decision about where you want to be with your system.

My advice is to change the Windows Update (WU) setting to never.

It really depends on where you want to be with your Windows 7 system.

Woody Leonhard has described the situation something like this.  Note, I am using my own words here and describing it from my own perspective:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3128983/microsoft-windows/how-to-prepare-for-the-windows-781-patchocalypse.html

Group A:  Roll over and just let MS install what ever they wish on your computer and just don't worry about privacy and the spyware they will install.  With this option you leave WU as Delayed start, and set the WU setting at Recommended.  This is the easy way and requires no effort or concentration.  You just let happen what will.  This is essentially what you have with a Windows 10 system.

Group B:  Refuse to accept any updates except Security ones.  In that case you follow my initial recommendation and leave WU set at Never.  You get the Security only updates from the "catalog".   There is risk here in B.  You are trusting that MS will not put anything in that group that does things you do not want done. A sort of level of trust in MS that I am not sure they deserve.   Keep in mind that they have done the same thing with this set of updates they did in the main one.  It is all one agglomeration of whatever number of security updates they decide to put in it. 

Group C (AKA W): Shut down WU permanently and never again accept a Windows Update.  This group feels that the risk of MS changing their machine in unacceptable ways or even bricking it is greater than the risk of a hacker breaking in because some security patch was not installed.   I suspect that most people who even think about this topic will opt for this.  However since most people think of their computer like a potato peeler, they will not even think about this and things will just happen without them even knowing.  They will be Group A and won't even know it.

I am in Group W and would like to be in Group B.   It depends on whether I can find a satisfactory way for my 150 or so client machines to be updated.  They are average Joes and Janes.

Note that this may not apply to NON-Windows updates such as Office.  I am not sure how you can be in group B or W and do this, but I am working on it.

UPDATE November 19, 2016:

It now appears that B is an impractical strategy for 99% of users.  And, here is the reason why:  When an error is made in a security-only update, if the error turns out not to have a security affect, it may be corrected in a non-security update.  In that case if you were following B strategy, you would be left with an un-corrected defective update installed on your computer.  If you were extremely diligent and knew about it, you may be able to get the correction in specific cases.  This would entail an extreme amount of diligence that few would be willing or able to provide.

The new rollup style of updates that Microsoft is now providing to what we would call Group A, which include all kinds of updates (security and non-security), are cumulative.  That means if you miss a month or even more, it will not matter because by installing the latest month's rollup, you would be up to date.

NOTE well, that Security-only updates are NOT cumulative.  Which means if you miss a month, you may never get the missed updates.

So one strategy that you may wish to consider is following Group C, but still updating .net and Microsoft Office through Windows Update, but installing no Windows updates at all.  It would be advisable in this case that you stop using Internet Explorer because you would not be getting those updates, but instead use an alternative browser.

Then, after following this strategy for some time, if things take a turn for the worse, and you decide you made the wrong choice (Group C with .net an Office updates), you can easily shift to A by simply using the latest offered Rollup offered in Windows Update.

So, as things have evolved, it looks like the vast majority have really only two choices:  A as described above or C (modified as described above).  The good news is that if you follow the modified C strategy, you have a way back to the Microsoft way, that is easy to implement.

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-12-30T01:53:14+00:00

    @CT, well I want to be in C, but after my goof up I may have a new Group!

    Hey CT! I see you are continuing to endear yourself to Microsoft:-)

        Also you have some new helpers joining you!! Good to see, too.

        I purchased a Refurbished Dell Win7Pro 64bit 4GB RAM Desktop PC & proceeded to

        set it up at the beginning of Dec.2016. MSE was pre-installed and I installed

        MBAM Premium. They work well together, no conflicts. Have used the same

        on my Win7 laptop for 2 years.

        Using F.F.(Firefox) with NoScript, Better Privacy & Adblock Plus.

        Too late, I found out the shipper set my WU to Automatic and since

        I didn't check the Setting...well you can imagine what happened.

        On December 13, 2016 35 WU & 3 .NET Framework were installed. Also while

        checking my installed Updates, the shipper had installed a little over

        200 WU all in March 2016.

        Since the March WU were before this new WU procedure was in effect, I

        feel it's ok to leave them installed.

        My concern is the ones installed on December 13, 2016. What do you think

        I should do with them? They each have a KB and most are Security & .NET.

        Yes, I now have WU on Never. Following your advice last year, my Win7

        laptop has been on Never, Never:-) That may be my Group, Never.

        Thank you when you have time to respond.

        RE   

    I typed this on notepad, so the format seems off, sorry.

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  2. Anonymous
    2016-12-30T01:59:08+00:00

    You can uninstall the rollups.  I would not uninstall the .net updates nor the Office updates.

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  3. Anonymous
    2016-12-30T02:17:14+00:00

    You can uninstall the rollups.  I would not uninstall the .net updates nor the Office updates.

    Thank you very much. Boy, you have been so busy. Hope you had a nice Christmas and wishing you a very Happy New Year!!

     I know some users are talking about going to Apple. I read that some of the newer Macs have soldered the RAM to the motherboard and users are not happy campers. Forgot which models they do that to, but 2012 was the last that you could add RAM.

    Take care,

    Redbear

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  4. Anonymous
    2016-12-30T02:42:06+00:00

    There are lots of downsides to Apple products.  You have to remember that fundamentally, Apple is hardware company and Microsoft a software company.  Both are trying to be more like the other.

    Apple hardware is deigned to lock you in and lock out competitors.  Apple has a fenced-in strategy.   Microsoft Windows saw its success and the source of its fortune from an open architecture, while Apple had a closed one.  Expect to pay substantially more for Apple hardware.  It is touted as superior, but is not.  Same components.

    Apple is a spymaster too, but very cool about it, and has year more experience doing it.

    The big difference is that Apple actually cares about customers.

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  5. Anonymous
    2016-12-30T03:44:58+00:00

    I know you are right in the differences between the two regarding hardware/software. Not sure when Microsoft started changing tactics but they certainly did by trying to force Win10 on users. New CEO, perhaps.

    Vista wasn't forced on XP users and clearly Win7 wasn't forced on Vista users.

    And even after this Win10 debacle, they haven't learned anything. This Windows Update change proves that, i.e. their way or the highway. Too arrogant for my taste. Greed, pride and arrogancy is not a winning combination.

    Your last sentence speaks volumes.  And that is the biggest difference between Apple and Microsoft.

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