Windows Update - How will it change your system?

Anonymous
2016-10-14T16:11:13+00:00

You need to make a decision about where you want to be with your system.

My advice is to change the Windows Update (WU) setting to never.

It really depends on where you want to be with your Windows 7 system.

Woody Leonhard has described the situation something like this.  Note, I am using my own words here and describing it from my own perspective:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3128983/microsoft-windows/how-to-prepare-for-the-windows-781-patchocalypse.html

Group A:  Roll over and just let MS install what ever they wish on your computer and just don't worry about privacy and the spyware they will install.  With this option you leave WU as Delayed start, and set the WU setting at Recommended.  This is the easy way and requires no effort or concentration.  You just let happen what will.  This is essentially what you have with a Windows 10 system.

Group B:  Refuse to accept any updates except Security ones.  In that case you follow my initial recommendation and leave WU set at Never.  You get the Security only updates from the "catalog".   There is risk here in B.  You are trusting that MS will not put anything in that group that does things you do not want done. A sort of level of trust in MS that I am not sure they deserve.   Keep in mind that they have done the same thing with this set of updates they did in the main one.  It is all one agglomeration of whatever number of security updates they decide to put in it. 

Group C (AKA W): Shut down WU permanently and never again accept a Windows Update.  This group feels that the risk of MS changing their machine in unacceptable ways or even bricking it is greater than the risk of a hacker breaking in because some security patch was not installed.   I suspect that most people who even think about this topic will opt for this.  However since most people think of their computer like a potato peeler, they will not even think about this and things will just happen without them even knowing.  They will be Group A and won't even know it.

I am in Group W and would like to be in Group B.   It depends on whether I can find a satisfactory way for my 150 or so client machines to be updated.  They are average Joes and Janes.

Note that this may not apply to NON-Windows updates such as Office.  I am not sure how you can be in group B or W and do this, but I am working on it.

UPDATE November 19, 2016:

It now appears that B is an impractical strategy for 99% of users.  And, here is the reason why:  When an error is made in a security-only update, if the error turns out not to have a security affect, it may be corrected in a non-security update.  In that case if you were following B strategy, you would be left with an un-corrected defective update installed on your computer.  If you were extremely diligent and knew about it, you may be able to get the correction in specific cases.  This would entail an extreme amount of diligence that few would be willing or able to provide.

The new rollup style of updates that Microsoft is now providing to what we would call Group A, which include all kinds of updates (security and non-security), are cumulative.  That means if you miss a month or even more, it will not matter because by installing the latest month's rollup, you would be up to date.

NOTE well, that Security-only updates are NOT cumulative.  Which means if you miss a month, you may never get the missed updates.

So one strategy that you may wish to consider is following Group C, but still updating .net and Microsoft Office through Windows Update, but installing no Windows updates at all.  It would be advisable in this case that you stop using Internet Explorer because you would not be getting those updates, but instead use an alternative browser.

Then, after following this strategy for some time, if things take a turn for the worse, and you decide you made the wrong choice (Group C with .net an Office updates), you can easily shift to A by simply using the latest offered Rollup offered in Windows Update.

So, as things have evolved, it looks like the vast majority have really only two choices:  A as described above or C (modified as described above).  The good news is that if you follow the modified C strategy, you have a way back to the Microsoft way, that is easy to implement.

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-10-19T07:37:29+00:00

    It is my understanding that although you paid money, you do not in fact own the software, you were sold a license to use the software in the manner set forth by MS. Just look at the first line and the second restriction on using the software:

    1. SCOPE OF LICENSE. The software is licensed, not sold. This agreement only gives you some rights to use the features included in the software edition you licensed. Microsoft reserves all other rights.

    Unless applicable law gives you more rights despite this limitation, you may use the software only as expressly permitted in this agreement. In doing so, you must comply with any technical limitations in the software that only allow you to use it in certain ways. You may not

    · work around any technical limitations in the software;

    · reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble the software, except and only to the       extent that applicable law expressly permits, despite this limitation;

    · use components of the software to run applications not running on the software;

    · make more copies of the software than specified in this agreement or allowed by applicable law, despite this limitation;

    · publish the software for others to copy;

    · rent, lease or lend the software; or

    · use the software for commercial software hosting services.

    I am by far no expert, but what you are suggesting would be a violation of the agreement you made to use Windows 7.

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  2. Anonymous
    2016-10-19T08:53:33+00:00

    d0gknees, could I just pick your brain a moment, please?

    Do you think that if, as an example only, Microsoft were to install a package of five updates we would then be able to go into the registry and uninstall one out of the five?

    I am asking because if we are still able to turn the update program off and on, then we could turn it off before we uninstall, via the registry, a given update.

    Yes, it would probably be reinstalled next time we turn the update program back on, but we just repeat the process after the next update package is installed and we then turn the program off again.

    Or something along those lines.  If we can mess about in the registry without the law folks ringing our doorbell, I am sure somebody will figure out a smooth way to achieve what we are discussing here.

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  3. Anonymous
    2016-10-19T09:04:05+00:00

    I don't go that deep these days (20 years ago yes!!). I suspect it would be possible, but I personally aren't upset enough about them rolling them up to get into those details.

    I guess I've been relatively luck and haven't had any serious issues with updates lately so I haven't had to dig into it.

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  4. Anonymous
    2016-10-19T09:05:22+00:00

    killrkadoogan, I am aware of the concept that I am only licensed to use the program and do not own it and also indicated in one of my previous posts that I had reservations about trying to break up a software package from the company, but I don't think we are breaking the law just by exploring ideas and discussing the matter.

    In fact, at universities where they teach law they discuss the strengths and weaknesses of laws and that means they must also touch upon methods of breaking a given statute -- the studying of its weaknesses.

    Legislators and their staff members must do the same thing when they discuss ways to change a law or add laws.

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  5. Anonymous
    2016-10-19T09:22:57+00:00

    I apologize if I gave the wrong impression but I was not  implying that we are breaking the law just by exploring ideas and discussing the matter. After all that is exactly what I think this thread was intended for.

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