Windows Update - How will it change your system?

Anonymous
2016-10-14T16:11:13+00:00

You need to make a decision about where you want to be with your system.

My advice is to change the Windows Update (WU) setting to never.

It really depends on where you want to be with your Windows 7 system.

Woody Leonhard has described the situation something like this.  Note, I am using my own words here and describing it from my own perspective:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3128983/microsoft-windows/how-to-prepare-for-the-windows-781-patchocalypse.html

Group A:  Roll over and just let MS install what ever they wish on your computer and just don't worry about privacy and the spyware they will install.  With this option you leave WU as Delayed start, and set the WU setting at Recommended.  This is the easy way and requires no effort or concentration.  You just let happen what will.  This is essentially what you have with a Windows 10 system.

Group B:  Refuse to accept any updates except Security ones.  In that case you follow my initial recommendation and leave WU set at Never.  You get the Security only updates from the "catalog".   There is risk here in B.  You are trusting that MS will not put anything in that group that does things you do not want done. A sort of level of trust in MS that I am not sure they deserve.   Keep in mind that they have done the same thing with this set of updates they did in the main one.  It is all one agglomeration of whatever number of security updates they decide to put in it. 

Group C (AKA W): Shut down WU permanently and never again accept a Windows Update.  This group feels that the risk of MS changing their machine in unacceptable ways or even bricking it is greater than the risk of a hacker breaking in because some security patch was not installed.   I suspect that most people who even think about this topic will opt for this.  However since most people think of their computer like a potato peeler, they will not even think about this and things will just happen without them even knowing.  They will be Group A and won't even know it.

I am in Group W and would like to be in Group B.   It depends on whether I can find a satisfactory way for my 150 or so client machines to be updated.  They are average Joes and Janes.

Note that this may not apply to NON-Windows updates such as Office.  I am not sure how you can be in group B or W and do this, but I am working on it.

UPDATE November 19, 2016:

It now appears that B is an impractical strategy for 99% of users.  And, here is the reason why:  When an error is made in a security-only update, if the error turns out not to have a security affect, it may be corrected in a non-security update.  In that case if you were following B strategy, you would be left with an un-corrected defective update installed on your computer.  If you were extremely diligent and knew about it, you may be able to get the correction in specific cases.  This would entail an extreme amount of diligence that few would be willing or able to provide.

The new rollup style of updates that Microsoft is now providing to what we would call Group A, which include all kinds of updates (security and non-security), are cumulative.  That means if you miss a month or even more, it will not matter because by installing the latest month's rollup, you would be up to date.

NOTE well, that Security-only updates are NOT cumulative.  Which means if you miss a month, you may never get the missed updates.

So one strategy that you may wish to consider is following Group C, but still updating .net and Microsoft Office through Windows Update, but installing no Windows updates at all.  It would be advisable in this case that you stop using Internet Explorer because you would not be getting those updates, but instead use an alternative browser.

Then, after following this strategy for some time, if things take a turn for the worse, and you decide you made the wrong choice (Group C with .net an Office updates), you can easily shift to A by simply using the latest offered Rollup offered in Windows Update.

So, as things have evolved, it looks like the vast majority have really only two choices:  A as described above or C (modified as described above).  The good news is that if you follow the modified C strategy, you have a way back to the Microsoft way, that is easy to implement.

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-10-19T20:50:03+00:00

    Okay, but the altering of system files isn't done in the registry?

    Also, to grab just one example, this is a false statement?

    "But if the programs entry is missing in the Control Panel or the Uninstaller is not available, or these ways do not work for some reason, you can also use the Windows Registry."

    I don't think it's necessary to put the link here for where that came from, as it is easy to find it.  And the rules here may not allow me to place the link here.  There were others in the search results that seemed to indicate that the registry could be used like in that statement I quoted from one bunch of folks.

    And "bunch of folks" comes from that group referring themselves as a club.

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  2. Anonymous
    2016-10-19T13:46:52+00:00

    Do you think that if, as an example only, Microsoft were to install a package of five updates we would then be able to go into the registry and uninstall one out of the five?

    You don't uninstall things via the registry.  In general, Windows updates alter/replace or add system files.  The only way to do what you propose would be to break down cumulative updates before they're installed, and as for that, we've already determined that (1) it would be a violation of the EULA to do so and (2) if such a thing were reasonably feasible it would have been done by now.

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  3. Anonymous
    2016-10-19T09:22:57+00:00

    I apologize if I gave the wrong impression but I was not  implying that we are breaking the law just by exploring ideas and discussing the matter. After all that is exactly what I think this thread was intended for.

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  4. Anonymous
    2016-10-19T09:05:22+00:00

    killrkadoogan, I am aware of the concept that I am only licensed to use the program and do not own it and also indicated in one of my previous posts that I had reservations about trying to break up a software package from the company, but I don't think we are breaking the law just by exploring ideas and discussing the matter.

    In fact, at universities where they teach law they discuss the strengths and weaknesses of laws and that means they must also touch upon methods of breaking a given statute -- the studying of its weaknesses.

    Legislators and their staff members must do the same thing when they discuss ways to change a law or add laws.

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  5. Anonymous
    2016-10-19T09:04:05+00:00

    I don't go that deep these days (20 years ago yes!!). I suspect it would be possible, but I personally aren't upset enough about them rolling them up to get into those details.

    I guess I've been relatively luck and haven't had any serious issues with updates lately so I haven't had to dig into it.

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