Windows Update - How will it change your system?

Anonymous
2016-10-14T16:11:13+00:00

You need to make a decision about where you want to be with your system.

My advice is to change the Windows Update (WU) setting to never.

It really depends on where you want to be with your Windows 7 system.

Woody Leonhard has described the situation something like this.  Note, I am using my own words here and describing it from my own perspective:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3128983/microsoft-windows/how-to-prepare-for-the-windows-781-patchocalypse.html

Group A:  Roll over and just let MS install what ever they wish on your computer and just don't worry about privacy and the spyware they will install.  With this option you leave WU as Delayed start, and set the WU setting at Recommended.  This is the easy way and requires no effort or concentration.  You just let happen what will.  This is essentially what you have with a Windows 10 system.

Group B:  Refuse to accept any updates except Security ones.  In that case you follow my initial recommendation and leave WU set at Never.  You get the Security only updates from the "catalog".   There is risk here in B.  You are trusting that MS will not put anything in that group that does things you do not want done. A sort of level of trust in MS that I am not sure they deserve.   Keep in mind that they have done the same thing with this set of updates they did in the main one.  It is all one agglomeration of whatever number of security updates they decide to put in it. 

Group C (AKA W): Shut down WU permanently and never again accept a Windows Update.  This group feels that the risk of MS changing their machine in unacceptable ways or even bricking it is greater than the risk of a hacker breaking in because some security patch was not installed.   I suspect that most people who even think about this topic will opt for this.  However since most people think of their computer like a potato peeler, they will not even think about this and things will just happen without them even knowing.  They will be Group A and won't even know it.

I am in Group W and would like to be in Group B.   It depends on whether I can find a satisfactory way for my 150 or so client machines to be updated.  They are average Joes and Janes.

Note that this may not apply to NON-Windows updates such as Office.  I am not sure how you can be in group B or W and do this, but I am working on it.

UPDATE November 19, 2016:

It now appears that B is an impractical strategy for 99% of users.  And, here is the reason why:  When an error is made in a security-only update, if the error turns out not to have a security affect, it may be corrected in a non-security update.  In that case if you were following B strategy, you would be left with an un-corrected defective update installed on your computer.  If you were extremely diligent and knew about it, you may be able to get the correction in specific cases.  This would entail an extreme amount of diligence that few would be willing or able to provide.

The new rollup style of updates that Microsoft is now providing to what we would call Group A, which include all kinds of updates (security and non-security), are cumulative.  That means if you miss a month or even more, it will not matter because by installing the latest month's rollup, you would be up to date.

NOTE well, that Security-only updates are NOT cumulative.  Which means if you miss a month, you may never get the missed updates.

So one strategy that you may wish to consider is following Group C, but still updating .net and Microsoft Office through Windows Update, but installing no Windows updates at all.  It would be advisable in this case that you stop using Internet Explorer because you would not be getting those updates, but instead use an alternative browser.

Then, after following this strategy for some time, if things take a turn for the worse, and you decide you made the wrong choice (Group C with .net an Office updates), you can easily shift to A by simply using the latest offered Rollup offered in Windows Update.

So, as things have evolved, it looks like the vast majority have really only two choices:  A as described above or C (modified as described above).  The good news is that if you follow the modified C strategy, you have a way back to the Microsoft way, that is easy to implement.

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-12-19T19:04:01+00:00

    Hardly ever is it a particular KB that results in a no boot scenario.

    Yet, this is precisely what just happened to me and caused me 1 full week's loss of work.  My box would not Shut Down without pulling the power cord immediately after installing what Microsoft classified as a "Required Update."  So, the difference between their language of "Required" vs "Optional" really has no meaning for those who have their box hosed to the point of being forced into a Clean All scenario with Diskpart from an X: prompt.

    I too had no installation media disk as the OS came "pre-installed," absolutely zero help from Dell (service tag expired) and did not even bother contacting Microsoft as I've already had years of experience with them being no help at all.  So, I like many, was completely on my own.

    If it were not for the DigitalRiver mirror site over in Germany, I'd still be without a running box to this day.  Fortunately, that site had hash-matched ISOs available.  After I confirmed the hash with what Microsoft delivers, I had no pain or ethical hangups at all in downloading the ISO and using my bought and paid for Microsoft Product Key to finally restore my box.

    That gave me a pristine clean zeroed-out partition install of the OS without the bloatware from either Microsoft or Dell and an OS HDD footprint of no more than 38mb after install. That's when I ran into the Microsoft Update Agent Nightmare which took a full five days to figure out, thanks to no one other than Canadian.

    I swear on my Dual Core CPU that the next box I buy will be a Mac.  I can run the Windows based software that I need to run on the Mac and I can still use VMware on my dedicated VPS to get work done.

    If Apple, gives me troubles - at least they will be NEW troubles and not those that Microsoft has injected into my life over the years.  There new slogan should be:

    How much time do you want to waste today?

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  2. Anonymous
    2016-12-19T18:54:43+00:00

    My thinking is much the same.  Microsoft lost the concept of CUSTOMER, years ago, but it came to the crisis point with Windows 10 (AKA Windows as a service).  Apple will use your data too, but do it with far more finesse and actually behaves like customers are important.

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  3. Anonymous
    2016-12-19T18:40:59+00:00

    This is really a shame. 

    The old marketing slogan for Microsoft used to be:

    Where do you want to go today? 

    Now, its just:

    How badly do you want to screw up your operating system today?

    My, my.  How things have changed for the worst over at Microsoft.

    The more Microsoft pushes the edge of incredulity like this, the more I convince myself that giving Apple a try and going with the Mac as my next box is the right answer.

    At least with Apple, I can get into my car, drive down to their new campus and ask some questions directly within a few minutes.  I don't have that option with Microsoft.  I'm starting to fee an Apple coming on.  I feel too much like an unwanted customer of Microsoft over the years. 

    Thanks again for another informative post, Canadian!  Much appreciated.

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  4. Anonymous
    2016-12-17T23:00:12+00:00

    Silly Dell people:

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  5. Anonymous
    2016-12-17T21:09:18+00:00

    I am delighted to hear that Dell is referring to this thread.  However, this is not quite the right one.  The right one is at:

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-update/windows-7-update-solution/f39a65fa-9d10-42e7-9bc0-7f5096b36d0c

    Once you have installed KB3172605, you will not have to install it again.  The problem should be fixed.

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