Following a clean install, Windows Update remains at "Checking For Updates" forever...

Anonymous
2016-01-19T16:22:55+00:00

I've reloaded hundreds of Windows computers over the years and I like to think that I am reasonably proficient at that process.  I have just encountered an issue that required a lot of time and effort to resolve and I am posting this to try and save someone else the same ordeal.

My customer had a late model, name-brand Windows 7/64 SP1 computer with a disk drive that was failing.  I changed out the disk drive with a replacement and went through the recovery process, using the manufacturer-provided Recovery Media.  That media is supposed to be identical to the image loaded on the drive from the factory - Windows 7/64 with SP1.

Following the reload, I followed my normal procedure and launched Windows Update.  Windows Update remained at "Checking for Updates" for hours, without ever displaying any updates to install.  I restarted the PC and tried again, with exactly the same result.  The Software Distribution folder would get built and there were plenty of entries in WindowsUpdate.log, but eventually disk activity would cease but CPU activity would remain over 50%.  And Windows Update just showed "Checking for Updates" forever.

I decided the reload must have been bad and so I repeated it from scratch again with exactly the same result.  At that point I decided the image on the manufacturer's Recovery Media must be defective and so I reloaded from my MS Partner Program Windows 7/64 SP1 DVD.  I had the same exact symptoms and result again.  I thought that maybe I was not waiting long enough, so I left it running overnight.  The next morning, it was still at "Checking for Updates".

I tried additional reloads using SURT and that also remained at "Checking for Updates" without accomplishing anything.  I tried using the Windows Update Troubleshooter - with no luck.  Ditto for manually resetting Windows Update and various combinations of these techniques.  I verified that Windows was activated and that date/time were correctly set.  Nothing made any difference.

I then started meticulously documenting everything as I went along and I think I've found a solution:

After the reload, I checked the Windows Update components in C:\Windows\System32. The components are wuapi.dll, wuapp.exe, wuaclt.exe and wuaeng.dll and all are version 7.5.7601.17514 dated 11/20/2010.  Once you launched Windows update or run SURT, these are all updated directly to version 7.6.7600.320.  At that point, I get the symptoms described above and there doesn't appear to be any way to recover.

When Windows Update is launched, it first updates itself automatically and without the user having any option.  It appears that upgrading the WU components from7.5.7601.17514 directly to 7.6.7600.320 causes the issue.  I suspect that it works fine for computers that are updated incrementally.

Once WU version 7.6.7600.320 is loaded, there is no easy recovery that I could find.

CURRENT PROCEDURE:


  1. Download https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3020369 and https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172605 in advance.
  2. Disconnect the computer from the Internet so Windows Update cannot automatically update itself to 7.6.7600.320.
  3. Perform a fresh reload from Recovery Media or Windows 7/64 with SP1 RTM.
  4. When the installation prompts for updates, choose "Ask Me Later".
  5. Apply KB3020369 and then KB3172605 in that order.
  6. Restore the Internet connection, configure update settings to your preference and launch Windows Update as normal.

Credit to Canadian Tech, Volume Z and other contributors for developing this current procedure.


ORIGINAL PROCEDURE FROM JANUARY 19 2016 HAS BEEN DEPRECATED BY THE NEW PROCEDURE ABOVE:


  1. Download KB3083710 and KB3102810 in advance.
  2. Disconnect the computer from the Internet so Windows Update cannot automatically update itself to 7.6.7600.320.
  3. Perform a fresh reload from Recovery Media or Windows 7/64 with SP1 RTM.
  4. Manually install KB3083710 and restart - WU components will now be version 7.6.7601.19016 dated 9/25/2015.
  5. Manually install KB3102810 and restart - WU components will now be version 7.6.7601.19046 dated 10/20/2015.
  6. Restore the Internet connection and launch Windows Update as normal.
  7. After a few minutes, you should have plenty of updates to download and install.

Ken Morley

Windows for home | Previous Windows versions | Windows update

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-06-27T07:52:49+00:00

    The Windows edition isn't relevant. Experiencing the issue is equal to having SP1. Even with IE8 you can access the links I posted for you here:

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-update/i-can-not-get-windows-7-pro-to-update/d8b09809-1f4f-400e-aa20-27963151b930?page=2

    Plus KB3102810 is clearly inferior to KB3161608. With KB3102810 the issue will return after a few dozen updates.

    Regards, VZ

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  2. Anonymous
    2016-06-27T12:10:23+00:00

    Volume Z:

    You said "Plus KB3102810 is clearly inferior to KB3161608. With KB3102810 the issue will return after a few dozen updates."

    KB3102810 might possibly be inferior to KB3161608 - the latter is certainly more recent and presumably "new and improved".  But I have done many reloads using KB3102810 since January and I have not had any problems with "the issue returning after a few dozen updates".  That is true even after 5-6 MS Patch Tuesdays with Automatic Updates enabled.  

    I've been halfway expecting some new problem to occur, but so far none have.

    Ken Morley

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  3. Anonymous
    2016-06-27T12:52:49+00:00

    I have seen update procedures fail completely with "Failure configuring Windows updates. Reverting changes." with KB3102810. As we all know even current installations experience the issue, with or without KB3102810 involved. This means somewhere on the way KB3102810 is bound to fail, as well as its successors up to KB3138612. While KB3102810 certainly was immensely helpful in its day, the new recommendation of choice has to be KB3161608.

    Regards, VZ

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  4. Anonymous
    2016-06-27T13:43:17+00:00

    Had the same issue with Windows Update after doing a format and clean install of Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1. Here the link to my post within this forum - http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-update/window7-update-i-have-lost-my-mind-with-it/adf336c1-1c36-4bcd-98c4-e6fed952c51f?page=1

    VZ solution worked like a charm given what addition step were required and Windows Update ran/checked and found update files 10 to 15 minutes tops.

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  5. Anonymous
    2016-06-27T21:26:00+00:00

    I have seen update procedures fail completely with "Failure configuring Windows updates. Reverting changes." with KB3102810. As we all know even current installations experience the issue, with or without KB3102810 involved. This means somewhere on the way KB3102810 is bound to fail, as well as its successors up to KB3138612. While KB3102810 certainly was immensely helpful in its day, the new recommendation of choice has to be KB3161608.

    Regards, VZ

           

    Still having horrific problems even with all his advice.  When I was trying to find out if I had SP1 someone said it didn't matter, but everywhere I look the solutions including this one says SP1 is required.  After over an hour of searching for a clear cut response to whether I have it or not, it does not appear that I do.  SO, now I have to find a way to get SP1 onto my computer before I follow any of these other instructions.  SP1 is HUGE and I need advice as to how to get it on my computer.  Can't download it to my sickie old computer due to all the updates I need and since Windows Update is not working, how on earth do I do that?  The computer I'm working from at the moment is Win10 - even if I get SP1 it appears that it automatically updates what you download to - NOT what needs to be done...  Sure wish I had one of you guys who know what you are doing sitting in my chair! Think I am getting close to just trashing this Win7 computer...

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