Update for Windows Live Essentials Mail 2012 (KB3093594) kills WLM 2012

Anonymous
2015-12-11T22:43:54+00:00

Have been using this program for months now on windows 10 32 bit, and I get an email saying that MS are making changes to Outlook servers and to patch WLM 2012 and a download link.

I applied the patch and now after a few seconds of being open WLM 2012 crashes while updating the calendar.

Anyone know a fix for this? I have taken the patch off by repairing Windows essentials 2012 from the Programs and features dialog, but anyone know why this patch causes WLM to crash after a few seconds?

Tim

Windows for home | Other | Email and communications

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-05-08T11:57:31+00:00

    I also use a desktop pc with a 27" monitor when I'm at home. I've been using WLM for many years, and it has served me well. I agree the problem with windows 10 mail app is that it is designed for hand held devices and when compared to WLM is very feature poor. The growth in pc's is over and hand held devices are the future, so I think MS is not as concerned with pc customers as they once were. The point of my first post is that somebody made a post stating that WLM will no longer function after some time in June. I don't believe that is true except that it will no longer function with Outlook.com, otherwise it should continue to work as it always has.

    Is it actually true that WLM 2012 cannot be used with Hotmail and Outlook accounts for email syncing on outlook.com once Delta Sync is switched off sometime after late June 2016.

    I ask because why can't WLM 2012 users access their Outlook and Hotmail accounts by switching to using the IMAP protocol and settings (which I am currently doing). I admit the Folders do not update as fast as the (near immediate) Delta Synced folders did) BUT there is often only 10 seconds so delay (not dissimilar to other IMAP non MS accounts used with WLM 2012).

    If I am correct then it is VERY disappointing MS chose to not mention this obvious workaround in their WLM will no longer work with Outlook.com email.

    I believe if IMAP can be  used, then the only losses will be Calendar and Contact List syncing (I am guessing a huge number of users do not use Calendar syncing anyway).  I NEVER sync my Contacts List after being hacked once and my stored online contacts were used by the hacker.

    I have just seen a very disturbing a  new report only days ago that 4 major providers (have just been hacked for hundreds of millions user name and password and being distributed by a young Russian Hacker.  No Idea if true but am guessing it is as widely reported by reputable organizations.

    Hacking is a major reason and why I like Desktop Apps like WLM 2012 or Thunderbird. 

    IF outlook.com or others are hacked the hacker gets none of my contacts or archived emails at all (but current few days max) as all are stored locally and deleted online.

    I accept this is of not of use for those who require accessing their new email, archived email and contacts lists from different locations and therefore need the data stored online. In my case I only need access from a specific location so WLM 2012 and IMAP if it will still work on outlook.com after late June 2016 is perfect option for me.

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  2. Anonymous
    2016-05-07T00:15:00+00:00

    I also use a desktop pc with a 27" monitor when I'm at home. I've been using WLM for many years, and it has served me well. I agree the problem with windows 10 mail app is that it is designed for hand held devices and when compared to WLM is very feature poor. The growth in pc's is over and hand held devices are the future, so I think MS is not as concerned with pc customers as they once were. The point of my first post is that somebody made a post stating that WLM will no longer function after some time in June. I don't believe that is true except that it will no longer function with Outlook.com, otherwise it should continue to work as it always has.

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  3. Anonymous
    2016-05-06T19:21:46+00:00

    oldpaint,

    I was trying to keep my comments un-technical by not referring to the DeltaSync and ActiveSync protocol issues.  I have run both protocols on a single server.  All of the comments to my post so far seem to be from individuals who are unconcerned with DeltaSync versus ActiveSync.  As far as I am concerned, the elimination of Windows Live Mail is a non-issue to those individuals.

    I live in the not too uncommon combination-world of Apple and Microsoft.  To me, DeltaSync was an important aspect of making that work.  I have a subscription to Office 360, so for me and my requirements - Outlook will suffice.  I have used both Live Mail and Outlook extensively.  Outlook is a little more complex than what I need for my personal (non-business) requirements - but, I have to keep up with over 15 email accounts (Outlook, gmail, Apple, Yahoo, AT&T, Comcast, etc.) and I think Outlook will be my choice.

    I've started using Outlook on my iPhone recently.  It has started to very much impress me.  I'm going to start testing gmail on the iPhone Outlook app and see if that is going to work for me.

    I think the thing that most annoys me is that Microsoft does not understand that there is almost no overlap In GUI design between applications designed for a smartphone and a 27" desktop PC.

    I don't know if Microsoft GUI designers are that incompetent to not understand that... but, from what I have been able to determine they really are that incompetent.  For example, suggesting that someone use Windows 10 Mail on a PC with a 27" display, keyboard and mouse indicates a severe misunderstanding of effective GUI design.

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  4. Anonymous
    2016-05-06T17:58:38+00:00

    The way I understand it there are no "Windows Live Mail Servers". WLM is a stand alone email client and the only servers it interacts with are the servers which your email accounts are associated with. So after the changes take place on Outlook.com, only Outlook.com will no longer be compatible with WLM.

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