Can't Boot From Bootable CD -- Bios Set Correctly

Anonymous
2015-11-02T05:57:29+00:00

I am trying for the first time to boot my Windows 8.1 laptop from the internal CD-DVD drive. I have a bootable CD in there, and yes, I do have the bios set with CDROM drive as first in the list to boot from. But when I try to boot from the CD, it won't boot, instead the computer gives me this message:

"ATAPI CDROM has been blocked by the current security policy."

(Its actually a DVD drive.) All it lets me do at that message is hit the Enter key to OK the message, and then it boots from the hard drive.

I have no idea where "security policy" settings are or what they are set for. What do I have to do to get this to boot?

This is a Gateway laptop, 2.2 MHz Intel Pentium processor, 4 GB RAM, 64 bit OS, with Windows 8.1 fully updated, and Windows Defender running and fully updated.

I have already looked everywhere I can find, but nothing seems to address this message or issue, as follows:

*I went to Help menu to look up "Security Policy." While the computer is giving me the message about "security policy," the Help menu has no idea what "security policy" is, it just comes up blank!

*I went to Control Panels/System and Security/Action Center/Change Windows Settings/Smart Screen/... All I found in there that might be involved is a setting to block anything downloaded from the Internet until I give administrator access. Well, the booting issue didn't allow me to give administrator access (yes, I am the administrator) when I tried to boot, I only could hit the enter key to OK. Nonetheless, I changed to: notify me but proceed (not a quote).

With that, I tried again, but it still would not boot from the CD, got the same message, so that setting is not it. I changed the setting back.

I see no other setting there that could be related by even a stretch. And the control panels should be dealing with the OS anyway, and this is happening while trying to boot from the OS on the CD, not the hard drive. That is, this is something in the root.

*I then went into bios area (UEFI Firmware) by sweeping in from the right and into Settings/Change PC settings ..., and found a tab in bios for Security. Looking there, there is a list of things, but it lets me access only "Supervisor Password." It was currently set as "clear," meaning no password. I left it as that -- surely I can't need a password just to boot from a CD, and the message I got in trying to boot from the CD did not allow me to enter a password.

Other settings in the Security tab were not accessible. The only ones they included that might be remotely related were:

*Password on Boot, which was set as no password. But again, the message I get with this issue does not ask for nor allow me to enter a password.

*Secure Boot Mode: Standard (It does not let me access to change that.)

Some others also were in the list that are not worth listing, not even vaguely related.

I then went into some other things elsewhere in the main settings called Startup Settings. The only thing in there that sounded the least bit vaguely related was "Enable boot logging." I punched F2 to go into that, but the machine instead restarted, and did not start from the CDROM, same message again. I went back to it, and it is still listed as Enable boot logging, does not instead say Disable - so I don't know if anything even got changed. I did not touch it again, left it as-is.

So, that's it. I've checked all the settings I know about. Nothing about this bit about "ATAPI CDROM has been blocked by current security policy."

I tested with two DVDs that I have booted from in the past on other Windows machines -- they also would not boot, but they did not give me that message.

I note, all three CDs/DVDs are being read fine by the DVD drive once the machine is booted in Windows 8.1 from the hard drive - so the issue is not that the DVD drive can't read the disks.

Where is this "security policy" set?! What do I need to do to get this to boot from the CD?

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Anonymous
2016-08-24T15:35:47+00:00

Hi,

So everything is back to normal... or at least working to your satisfaction ?

You seem to know more about manipulating your email than I do, but though I may be able to help by describing what my screen looks like !

I know how that kind of conversation goes... Not so much with Microsoft, but with my internet provider sometimes..

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-08-23T12:32:50+00:00

    Hi,

    I don't know if  "Won't Work over 4GB" is 100% accurate... the term may be more like "Not Officially Supported"...

    Like a lot of other stuff, ways are found to make things work that normally wouldn't...

    And it may be dependent on what is actually Reading\Writing the FAT32...

    It isn't locked in stone like the 32bit processor\OS limit of 4GB..

    I do know that FAT32 will work over 4GB at least when creating the Flash Drive for UEFI Bios machines...

    It seems to me that I have purchased brand new 32+64GB Flash Drives that were formatted FAT32, and had me wondering what was going on with that... I always reformat them to NTFS just to be safe...

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  3. Anonymous
    2016-08-23T03:58:34+00:00

    So many ins and out, details. What a headache.

    But if FAT32 wont work over 4 GB -- well, I'm pretty sure I have reformatted at least one of my flash drives that s more than 4 GB, and I can do that only in FAT or Mac (and I suppose now NTFS using Windows Disk Management). They work with FAT on them.

    At any rate, I think your saying they normally would not work, but they do work for UEFI. Complications, ridiculous.

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  4. Anonymous
    2016-08-23T03:30:46+00:00

    Hi,

    If you have a GPT disk, Windows will either install as UEFI, or not at all... If it tries to install to Legacy with a GPT drive you will get nothing but error messages...

    UEFI is one of those things that is supposedly a standard, but it seems to me it is not standardized well at all... The UEFI authors seem to have too many variables between manufacturer's... There is no one set of procedures that will work the same on all machines...

    Win 8 and 10 format a Flash Drive as FAT32 to be used for UEFI boot device... Otherwise they normally use NTFS... FAT32 isn't reliable above 4GB, although it seems it can be made to work at greater than 4GB under some circumstances...

    That is one of my points about the UEFI Standardization... It is UEFI Standards that require the FAT32 for the bootable flash drive, not Windows...

    Legacy BIOS uses the more modern NTFS... exactly the opposite of what a person might think.

    If you formatted a flash drive as NTFS and managed to get a bootable copy of windows on it, it would not work with UEFI Bios, but would work with Legacy...

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