KB3035583 Installing Windows 10 using Windows Update?

It's one thing to present a different opinion and back it up with facts or other reasonable arguments. It is quite another to tell everybody that they should do what you think is right for them simply because it is what you have decided is right for you, then pass off legitimate counter-arguments as closed-mindedness.

Most of us here have seriously considered the merits and drawbacks of Windows 10. I had actually been looking forward to it until I learned about the forced update policy. When Microsoft wants to give me a free device, I will treat it as theirs, accept their choices as to what is installed on it, and use it accordingly. As long as I buy the device I use, I will consider that I own it, and I will decide what is or is not download or installed on it. Period.

Oh, and I still use Lotus 123 (97), because it is still the best spreadsheet software ever made. I also use Excel, for files I have to share with others, because I don't expect everybody else to conform to my choices just because I think they are better ones.

I sincerely hope your retail company has a more respectful attitude towards its customers than your comments demonstrate you have (or expect Microsoft to have) for people capable of making their own consumer decisions.

You turned snotty pretty fast, and without having read all of the thread.

I work in a field that requires me to show objectivity and critical judgment.  I deal with Windows 10 with the same approach.  As for your claims:

(1)  You claim that because Win10 is free "temporarily," no one should pass up the savings.  But you do not know what the ultimate cost will be, or what form(s) it will take.  Accordingly, you have no way to know whether there will be net savings.  Those who say that there is no such thing as a free lunch and are not willing to be lured into a loss-leader trap are wary for good reason.  Your obliviousness to this risk, on the other hand, is a disservice to your clients.

(2)  You say Win10 is more secure than previous versions.  So far, no review that I have read demonstrates this, and a couple of reviews discounted it.  Your opinion is unsubstantiated. 

(3)  You say that the Win10 update process is "better" that previous versions, with fewer interruptions.  Since you do not explain why this is so, I must infer that it is because the update process is automatic and involuntary.  In other words, no one is bothering the user to ask his permission to make changes to his machine.  And that, clearly, is "better" only in the sense that you prefer it that way.  Others quite reasonably disagree, and prefer to have some way to control what happens.  You also overlook the widely reported fiascoes wherein recent updates have screwed up people's computers.

(4)  I can't make out what you're babbling about here.

(5)  "The app store is great," you say.  Now if I need a Microsoft app store, I'll find it.  I do not need or want the OS to interrupt my work to lead me to the app store.

The overarching point you missed in your hop-and-a-skip through this thread is the importance of respecting the customer's right to enjoy quiet possession and use of software previously licensed from M$.  It is only when the customers have free choice--when their rights are respected, and they are not tricked--that the Win10 adoption rate means anything.  What do you contend, that the customers ought to be forced to go along, for their own good?  If Win10 is as advantageous as you claim, why do they need to be forced?

Perhaps you ought to show more respect for your father, by the way.  He was right about Lotus 1-2-3.  It was a better product than Excel until IBM dropped the ball with version 9 and opted to concentrate on Lotus Notes.  Microsoft used that chance to finally catch up, and with no further investment being put into 1-2-3, Excel then overtook it.

You haven't explained how I will be able to use my computer or software without drivers. Until you do that your replies are worthless.

Windows 10 may be a good thing for most people and I am delighted for them.

That does not mean it is a good thing for everybody and that is why Microsoft's policy is flawed.

I am curious as to why you seem incapable of understanding the distinction.

IMHO, OpenOffice is less expensive than Excel. OpenOffice costs 0 (zero) dollars and Calc (a part of OpenOffice) is able to serve very well.

Not sure if Windows 10 is good for everyone, and I doubt it is signaling the demise of other "CURRENT" operating systems from Apple, Google, and linux.  But to not keep your system current, or spending all your time doing manual updates in a shotgun manner seems foolish..  

The Win10 update has not been forced on any computer we manage, the Win10 upgrading is done at our pace, and with consideration of the requirements/software in their businesses.  None of the anti-Win10 tools or methods in this thread are utilized to maintain the systems at Win7.

"Windows 7 systems that are not properly protected are as easy to break into as Windows systems from 10 years ago."

 this is from an article in 2010.....  The importance of maintaining the security in the operating system has not changed!!

http://searchenterprisedesktop.techtarget.com/tip/Six-Windows-7-security-vulnerabilities-you-dont-know-about