KB3035583 Installing Windows 10 using Windows Update?

Eric and all others:

I am the originator of this discussion on April 12.  It clearly has been an active discussion with 308 and counting contributions to date.

I am a long term IT pro who looks after 150 client almost all Win7 computers.  I have been doing this for my clients for 14 years now, following a long professional career.

I have a procedure I follow and encourage my clients to follow.  It can be found at:

http://www.canadiantech.info/for-techies/prevent-windows-10/

I can tell you with absolute confidence it works.  Not a single one of my clients wants Win10 or has been threatened by it after following this procedure precisely.

Unfortunately, this procedure probably will not help those that have already allowed the Win10 malware to be either partly or completely installed.  Once that happens, the only way back to Win7 is a complete re-install.

I probably have posted this before, but it has been updated.

This is what you will find on the web page link above:

Microsoft has turned a decades-long respected process — Windows Update — into a malware distribution system.  It is for all intents and purposes forcing innocent and content Windows 7 computer users into “upgrading” to its new Windows 10 version.  It promises to allow return to Windows 7 within 30 days.  That return process is flawed and leaves your computer virtually unusable and requires re-installation of Windows 7.  For some owners without a re-usable Microsoft product key or a factory restore partition on their computers, it results in a useless thing that used to be a computer.

Windows 10 is a completely new and very different Windows.  Nothing like anything you have used before.

1. It is primarily an advertising/sales vehicle.  That's the keen motivation and reason it is free.
2. By adopting Windows 10, you sacrifice any privacy — essentially, anything on your computer is Microsoft’s and its partner’s to use as they see fit.
3. Windows Update becomes non-optional.  You, as owner of your system no longer have control over what happens to your computer.  Microsoft will re-make Windows (on your computer) into what serves its purposes without asking your permission or opinion.
4. Windows 10 as a system is still full of un-fulfilled promises and bugs.  Many of your programs will not run on Windows 10.  In fact, the “upgrade” process removes some.

So, if you like Windows 7, and most do very much so, I advise you to reject Windows 10 for the foreseeable future.  Be advised that Microsoft has committed to support Windows 7 until at least January, 2020.  Most of your current computers will last that long.

You must adopt a protective stance to prevent your Windows 7 system from becoming something you do not want.

I have advised my clients to change the Windows Update Setting to Never check for updates.  Once a month, about a week after the 2nd Tuesday, they will get an email from me advising to manually start WU and then to reject (right-click, hide) specific updates KB3035583, KB2952664, KB2977759, KB3021917, KB3075249, KB3080149, KB3083710, KB3083324,  KB3022345, KB3090045 and  KB3068708.  This list may change over time.  In fact, the December, 2015 update brought a new one: KB3112343

Some may scoff at this idea.  Well they are incorrect.  Never means you are never giving Microsoft a chance to decide what you download and install.  It does NOT mean you will never update.  The difference is that now you take control and the responsibility of updating of Windows and Office.

Some may believe that Microsoft would not do such a stupid thing. 

You must read Woody Leonhard (one of the most respected writers in the trade)  http://www.infoworld.com/article/2983777/microsoft-windows/how-to-clean-the-windows-10-crapware-off-your-windows-7-or-81-pc.html?nsdr=true Woody calls the Windows 10 download “crapware.”  Woody’s advice is that if you have Windows 7, keep it, you are better off by far.

If you see the Windows flag on the bottom right of your screen, chances are pretty high, your computer already has the Win10 file. Even if you do not, it may be on your computer shortly anyway.  Here are instructions on how to rid yourself of it:

First download and run GWX Control panel.  A free app:  http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2979572/microsoft-windows/gwx-stopper-an-easy-way-to-permanently-delete-get-windows-10-nagware-in-windows-7-and-81.html

It will allow you to prevent any future operating system upgrades and delete downloaded Win10 files, but it will not remove any of Microsoft’s installed or attempts to install spyware.

This process works, but it only works if you do all the steps and do them in order.

1. Take Windows Update off automatic — Never check for updates
2. Windows Update, Installed updates, WAIT a long time till you see the green bar complete its long trip to the right
3. Now, search for each of the listed updates, uninstall them.  You must wait until the list is re-created each time.
4. If there are others you want to uninstall, click Later
5. Then, clear the search box and after the list is again displayed, enter another KB number.
6. Restart the PC

If you choose “check for updates, but let me choose whether to download and install them”, Microsoft will download an “important” updates like KB3035583 to your computer.  It will be pre-checked — selected.  Unless you check Windows Update (WU) and discover this BEFORE you shut down, it will install it during the shut-down process.   Hiding accomplishes nothing.

This is more than annoying.  It goes way beyond that.  It is underhanded, dishonest and just plain wrong for Microsoft to do this.  There is no offer to accept or refuse.  There is no informed consent.  There is not even an idea of what it is your getting and what the result is if you change your mind.

"Unfortunately, this procedure probably will not help those that have already allowed the Win10 malware to be either partly or completely installed.  Once that happens, the only way back to Win7 is a complete re-install."

I wouldn't say "allow" per se...

Exactly my point. But as you said "probably will not help those who.. allowed or partially allowed Win 10 Malware to install". 

Therein lies the rub. The meat of the the "sh*t" sandwich we've just been served. 

 For most people, myself included and what I think MSFT is betting on: By the time you know there is a problem it's too late. Because the typical user has been brainwashed to run updates automatically. When this all first started happening and after being stupid enough to let some MSFT idiot support person to remote log on to one of my computers to check some broken .net configuration, i specifically told them NO LESS than 5 times DO NOT INSTALL ANY WINDOWS UPDATE and even opened a txt file, put it full screen and wrote the above in 20 pt font. Watching them like a hawk waiting for my food delivery to arrive, i made the mistake to walk away from my machine for exatly 1 min and 30 seconds to receive mentioned delivery, only to come back and find.....any guesses? The imbicile was installing updates when i got back. Any guesses which update installed first and before i could rip the plug out of the wall? Yep, this abomination. Now if that isn't Malware I'm your Nigerian Prince. And man, are you in luck..you see, you had this extraordinarily wealthy cousin in Lagos......

I think I have had to say this before: You, Mr. Cornell, have obviously not read (or if you have read, have not absorbed) the entire thread, much less the related information found on Woody Leonhard's site.  If you had, you would know about people who have had their settings changed, people who have been tricked, people who have been presented with screens that appear to leave them no choice but to accept Windows 10.  You either don't know what you're talking about, or you don't want to know.

In a word, Polyanna.

I also do not believe in UFOs.

Well, if you think this thread deserves to be classified with UFO-spotting, then at least we know what universe you're coming from.