KB3035583 Installing Windows 10 using Windows Update?

Anonymous
2015-04-12T11:56:46+00:00

Would you please tell me how to prevent the installation of KB3035583 in my computer and if it is already installed, how to remove it?  Also, are there other updates that we need to be concerned about that enable this behaviour?

KB3035583 now appears as an Important update in Windows Update and is checked which means it will be automatically installed if the user does not uncheck it.  If automatic update is set, it will install without intervention.

There are credible articles that say that Microsoft either has installed or will install changes to my computer that will enable Microsoft to use it as an advertising platform and then install Windows 10 without first obtaining an informed decision to do so.  I truly hope this is not true.

On behalf of my clients and their 162 Windows "consumer" computers, I must tell you that we do not grant Microsoft or any other vendor the right to do this.  When other Windows players do this, we regard it as malware and take great care to remove it.

Microsoft got to where it is today by selling Windows.  We have spent decades learning how to use Windows and billions of dollars buying Windows computers and Windows software.  We own these systems.  They are ours, not Microsoft's.

Windows Update has earned a huge trust.  We trust Microsoft to use Windows Update to keep our computers safe and secure.  When Patch Tuesday comes along we install all the updates that Microsoft says are "important." We assume those to be either plugging a security leak or fixing a software error.

We all hope Windows 10 will be something we will want.  We will carefully review and consult trusted advisors before we install Windows 10.  We have seen Windows 8 and rejected it.  Windows 8 is a bad product we did not choose.  

Automatically installing Windows 10 on our computers would be a severe abuse of a well-earned trust.  Changing our computers to enable them to become advertising platforms is also an abuse.

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  1. Anonymous
    2015-10-09T22:59:45+00:00

    Contained within the linked article is the actual link to a Microsoft representative's blog:

    http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/09/28/privacy-and-windows-10/

    So far as I can see it ignores the questions raised here.  But of greater note is that a sympathetic writer--the one who wrote the linked article--used this Microsoft blog to discredit criticism.

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-10-09T20:56:08+00:00

    I have written this on this forum numerous times.  There is only one way to take back control.......

    I have advised my clients to do what I have dreaded doing for years -- turn off Automatic Windows Update. 

    The problem is compounded by an incessant drive by Microsoft to install Windows 10 on your computer without your permission.  They keep re-installing KB3035583 (that is the enabler) on your computer, even if you uninstall it.  The result is the huge download and then constant nags without an apparent way to say no.

    So I have advised my clients to shut down WU.  Once a month on the 2nd Tuesday, they will get an email from me advising to manually start WU and then to reject specific updates like KB3035583.  Then update.  WU remains on NEVER.

    Some may scoff at this idea.  Well they are incorrect.  Never means you are never giving Microsoft a chance to decide what you download and install.  It does NOT mean you will never update.  The difference is that now you take on the responsibility of updating.

    Some may believe that Microsoft would not do such a stupid thing.  You must read Woody Leonhard (one of the most respected writers in the trade)  http://www.infoworld.com/article/2983777/microsoft-windows/how-to-clean-the-windows-10-crapware-off-your-windows-7-or-81-pc.html?nsdr=true Woody calls the Windows 10 download “crapware.”

    If you see the Windows flag on the bottom right of your screen, chances are pretty high, your computer already has the Win10 file. Even if you do not, it may be on your computer by now anyway.  Here are instructions on how to rid yourself of it:

    If you are using windows 7, and have not installed win10 and do not want it, here is a procedure that I have used many times and it works. 

    1. Take Windows Update off automatic -- Never check
    2. Task Manager, processes, find and end GWX.exe
    3. Windows Update, Installed updates, WAIT a long time till you see the green bar complete its long trip to the right
    4. Now, search for KB3035583, uninstall it
    5. If there are others you want to uninstall, click Later
    6. Then, clear the search box and after a brief wait, enter another KB number.
    7. Restart the PC
    8. Disk cleanup, do the 2nd step for System -- this takes a while
    9. You should find a Temporary Installation file there that is anywhere from 4 to 8 Gigabytes.  It is the Win10 downloaded file. Put a check mark on that item.
    10. OK, Delete Files
    11. Restart
    12. The startup will take a long time while it finishes cleanup

    Alternatively, you will find a solution in a Woody Leonhard article:

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/2979572/microsoft-windows/gwx-stopper-an-easy-way-to-permanently-delete-get-windows-10-nagware-in-windows-7-and-81.html

    If you choose “check for updates, but let me choose whether to download and install them”, Microsoft will download an "important" update KB3035583 to your computer.  It will be pre-checked -- selected.  Unless you check WU and discover this BEFORE you shut down, it will install it during the shut-down process.   Hiding accomplishes nothing.

    If you are going to take control of your computer and prevent Microsoft from downloading and installing their malware, you have to lock them out altogether. 

    I am advising my clients that they will take full control and responsibility for WU from now on.  I will advise them each month on the 2nd Tuesday to start WU, uncheck specific updates and complete the update.  Of course for now KB3035583 and KB2952664 are on that list.  As well as KB2977759, KB3075249, KB3080149, KB3083710, KB3083324,  KB3022345, and  KB3068708

    You will find a constantly updated list of updates to reject at Ask Woody (Woody Leonhard) http://www.askwoody.com/category/microsoft-windows-patches-security/

    This is more than annoying.  It goes way beyond that.  It is underhanded, dishonest and just plain wrong for them to do this.  There is no offer to accept or refuse.  There is no informed consent.  There is not even an idea of what it is your getting and what the result is if you change your mind.

    This will happen to your computer whether you asked for it or not!

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/2983777/microsoft-windows/how-to-clean-the-windows-10-crapware-off-your-windows-7-or-81-pc.html?nsdr=true

    Once you have it downloaded to your computer, it will nag you very frequently and not offer you an option to stop it or reject it.  It will not even allow you to update Windows 7 any longer. 

    If you read much here at this web site, you will find hundreds of people who let it happen, did not like it, and tried to return to Win7 and end up with a computer that was unusable.

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-10-09T20:15:50+00:00

    If your PC is turned off ever so often: Why not try a (regularily scheduled) batch calling on wusa (see https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/934307) doing ``"wusa /uninstall /KB:3035583"``, perhaps with /quiet and /warnrestart. A hydra! Classic Windows 7 users trying to decapitate Windows 10. (******@Joern.De)

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  4. Anonymous
    2015-10-09T20:08:55+00:00

    Hi

    you have to block all updates I did months ago ,now I don't have the problem and my computer has never run better

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  5. Anonymous
    2015-10-09T19:22:12+00:00

    I did this so far 4 times, every time I get the next set of updates, KB3035583 shows up with a check mark IN THE BOX BESIDE IT AGAIN - even though every time I "hide" the update. It just won't go away. I do not belong to "windows10 insider program". PLEASE HELP? THANKS

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