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Would you please tell me how to prevent the installation of KB3035583 in my computer and if it is already installed, how to remove it? Also, are there other updates that we need to be concerned about that enable this behaviour?
KB3035583 now appears as an Important update in Windows Update and is checked which means it will be automatically installed if the user does not uncheck it. If automatic update is set, it will install without intervention.
There are credible articles that say that Microsoft either has installed or will install changes to my computer that will enable Microsoft to use it as an advertising platform and then install Windows 10 without first obtaining an informed decision to do so. I truly hope this is not true.
On behalf of my clients and their 162 Windows "consumer" computers, I must tell you that we do not grant Microsoft or any other vendor the right to do this. When other Windows players do this, we regard it as malware and take great care to remove it.
Microsoft got to where it is today by selling Windows. We have spent decades learning how to use Windows and billions of dollars buying Windows computers and Windows software. We own these systems. They are ours, not Microsoft's.
Windows Update has earned a huge trust. We trust Microsoft to use Windows Update to keep our computers safe and secure. When Patch Tuesday comes along we install all the updates that Microsoft says are "important." We assume those to be either plugging a security leak or fixing a software error.
We all hope Windows 10 will be something we will want. We will carefully review and consult trusted advisors before we install Windows 10. We have seen Windows 8 and rejected it. Windows 8 is a bad product we did not choose.
Automatically installing Windows 10 on our computers would be a severe abuse of a well-earned trust. Changing our computers to enable them to become advertising platforms is also an abuse.
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Thank you Canada! I have Windows Live Essentials in my list of programs,
but ignored it since I wasn't sure what all it contained.
I will definitely try to sort it out, tonight or tomorrow. Going to shut down my Win7 so I can follow your instructions on my friend's Win7 HP with the GWX on it. And all of the WU to be Uninstalled; off line and hope I'm safe from the Invaders there:-)
Time for you to relax!! I'm in the EST zone. 9:45PM here now.
Until later.....
Windows Live Mail is the answer to your Hotmail replacement. A great program. I use it extensively every day. I have installed for at least 75 of my 150 clients. It is Outlook (the MS Office App), but free and better.
The 2011 version is better than the 2012 one. It is part of Windows Live Essentials.
http://g.live.com/1rewlive4-all/en/wlsetup-all.exe
If interested, I can provide much more on the topic.
http://www.canadiantech.info/for-techies/outlook-express-is-alive-and-well/
Mail for Windows 7
Outlook Express had been around for more than a decade. A very large number of people were very comfortable with it and had depended on it for years. It was originally an after-thought by Microsoft to add a bit of sweetener to Windows 98. It was a sort of downgraded or de-featured copy of their premier product Outlook which is part of Microsoft Office. When Windows XP came about, it continued as part of that version of Windows. When Vista came out, a “new” mail client was introduced called Windows Mail. As it turned out, it was a some-what improved version of Outlook Express.
Then Microsoft put on a billion dollar press to create an online Microsoft presence. Sort of like AOL or Yahoo. A big hire was made. A fortune was spent. A thing called “Windows Live” was created. Windows LIve is a whole world of applications. Windows Live is now re-named Windows Essentials. It even includes a sort of online version of Word. MSN Mail, which had earlier become HotMail, became Live Mail, and more lately Outlook (not the Outlook you find at the store). Do you find this all a bit confusing? I do! Google the words windows live and mail and you will find a plethora of what may be related or not.
At this point, the whole Live thing is pretty much a flop. The big muckity muck they hired to build it has gone to some other place.
Then Windows 7 was introduced. This time with much fanfare it was announced that Windows 7 did NOT have a mail program.
One of the elements of Live is a thing called “Windows Live Mail.” Does this sound confusing? You bet! I have spent hours and hours trying to find out what it is. It sounded like it was yet another name for HotMail — now re-named Live Mail. Is this a mail system that stores your mail on Microsoft servers or on your own computer? This is a key issue to many. Personally I am not willing to trust the storage and portability of my mail and contacts information to any company’s servers.
After all this research, I finally discovered that Windows Live Mail is in fact an email program that is really an improved version of the original Outlook Express. It includes a calendar tool, very much like the one in Outlook, a spam filter, some real improvements in displays. Windows Live Mail comes with its own spell checker and works on the fly just like in Word.
Windows Live Mail is a free download that you can get without all the other stuff that you probably will not want. You have to be careful when you start this download to select just the pieces you want. At least Microsoft does offer this choice unlike Apple’s iTunes download. Windows Live Mail works in Vista and 7.
I don't know where that product the writer described is. It's clearly not Win10.
When IE9 was not even in beta yet, I followed the IE blog. I noticed that the suggestions came from the Developers and Programmers. It was only after it was in beta and the users were testing and giving feedback. They should have listened to the Users that buy their product first.
Microsoft needs to stay with what they know and that is computers. Desktops and Laptops and stop with the touch screens and trying to make a computer into a smart phone. They have forgotten that users use their computers for work. Like you said, we know where to go for entertainment. They can't be all things to all people and that's part of the problem.
Hotmail is another issue. They've changed it to Outlook dot com and it's a mess. When I have time, I'll make a change there. You can't even print an email now, you have to go to the web to do it. Glad I have Firefox and use that and I've been thinking I may research Thunderbird.
I remember when Win7 launched, it was exciting! No one had to push the Win7 OS unto Vista and invade everyone's privacy.
I'm going to bookmark your forecast:-)
Contained within the linked article is the actual link to a Microsoft representative's blog:
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/09/28/privacy-and-windows-10/
So far as I can see it ignores the questions raised here. But of greater note is that a sympathetic writer--the one who wrote the linked article--used this Microsoft blog to discredit criticism.
I read that also. Of course he has to put the best spin on Win10. A lot of comments have been posted on the various discussions here and they should address them.
In my opinion, if MS wants their credibility and trust back, they need to stop downloading/installing anything Windows 10 related and make that known.
Post that here and else where. We can provide them a list of websites to post their mea culpa to:-)
Until then, we'll do whatever is necessary to protect our computers from unwanted invasion.
I read the linked article. At its best, if I believe the writer, it really boils down to the question of whether I want to buy the product he describes. I do not!
Windows is an environment I do work in. An environment in which I want no distractions. I need it to be clean and efficient and easy to use, so that I can get that work done effectively. I need it to be constant and be unchanging unless I need a change and it helps me do better work. It is not an entertainment centre to me. When I want entertainment, I will use the tool, device or environment in which I prefer to be entertained. That is not likely to be Windows 10.
What I reject about Windows 10 is that it is designed as an entertainment environment. That is not a product I want. I do not believe I am alone in my way of thinking. In the end, the market will speak. I forecast (write it down somewhere) that 2 years from now after hundreds of millions of dollars of hype, the world will finally wake up to the fact that Windows 10 is not what the market wanted. Just as they finally after 2 years admitted that Windows 8 (and Vista) was not what the market wanted. Maybe Windows 12 will be a true advancement on Windows 7, which is the gold standard for OS's.
Microsoft's all but illegal push to "convert" its customers to its way of thinking is oppressive and I reject it completely if for no other reason than that. This excessive pushiness makes Microsoft's lack of confidence that it has the right product, very obvious. If it thought it had a true winner out there, it would advertise its availability and leave it to the market to respond. Instead they are abusing the biggest corporate asset they have, their unparalleled customer base.
Instead of collecting data, why don't they turn the telephones back on and listen to CUSTOMERS? This forum, which surely they own, would be a good place to start.
