KB3035583 Installing Windows 10 using Windows Update?

Anonymous
2015-04-12T11:56:46+00:00

Would you please tell me how to prevent the installation of KB3035583 in my computer and if it is already installed, how to remove it?  Also, are there other updates that we need to be concerned about that enable this behaviour?

KB3035583 now appears as an Important update in Windows Update and is checked which means it will be automatically installed if the user does not uncheck it.  If automatic update is set, it will install without intervention.

There are credible articles that say that Microsoft either has installed or will install changes to my computer that will enable Microsoft to use it as an advertising platform and then install Windows 10 without first obtaining an informed decision to do so.  I truly hope this is not true.

On behalf of my clients and their 162 Windows "consumer" computers, I must tell you that we do not grant Microsoft or any other vendor the right to do this.  When other Windows players do this, we regard it as malware and take great care to remove it.

Microsoft got to where it is today by selling Windows.  We have spent decades learning how to use Windows and billions of dollars buying Windows computers and Windows software.  We own these systems.  They are ours, not Microsoft's.

Windows Update has earned a huge trust.  We trust Microsoft to use Windows Update to keep our computers safe and secure.  When Patch Tuesday comes along we install all the updates that Microsoft says are "important." We assume those to be either plugging a security leak or fixing a software error.

We all hope Windows 10 will be something we will want.  We will carefully review and consult trusted advisors before we install Windows 10.  We have seen Windows 8 and rejected it.  Windows 8 is a bad product we did not choose.  

Automatically installing Windows 10 on our computers would be a severe abuse of a well-earned trust.  Changing our computers to enable them to become advertising platforms is also an abuse.

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  1. Anonymous
    2015-10-17T00:41:08+00:00

    You are likely to have to do a complete re-install of Windows 7

    http://www.canadiantech.info/for-techies/re-build-windows-7/

    If you are going to do a re-install, you may be able to take your data off first.  Remove the hard drive and put it into a USB external drive housing.  Connect to a working PC, copy the data off.

    Always check to ensure the hard drive you are about to rebuild is actually sound from a hardware perspective.  Download and run your hard drive manufacturer’s drive testing software.

    First off, you want to try a System Repair disk to boot the PC.  It may be more successful in fixing and offer other alternatives.  If you do not have one, go to any other PC that has windows 7 with the same bitness (32/64).  Start globe, All Programs, Maintenance.  You need just a blank CD.  When you boot, ensure that you are in fact booting on that CD and not the hard drive.  Usually pressing F12 will lead you to the option to do so.

    If that does not work, you are likely into a re-install.  Takes a lot of time, but not all attended time.

    1. Factory restore — replaces everything on the hard drive with exactly what it had on it when you bought it
    2. “Upgrade” install using the Win7 install disk.  You start as if you are re-installing from scratch but when it gets to the point where it offers the Upgrade choice you choose that.
    3. Full Clean install.  The only absolutely sure way to have a perfectly clean system.

    You will need a Win7 install disk for 2 or 3.  You will need a legal product code for 3 and the win7 disk must match the edition of the code and its bitness (32 or 64)

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-10-17T00:35:51+00:00

    I recommend you do Windows Updates.  Just do it under your full control.  By setting it to NEVER, you are essentially taking control.  I recommend you do updates once per month on Patch Tuesday which is the 2nd Tuesday of each month.  Simply start WU, hide the update that you do not want, then proceed with update as usual.  Read www.AskWoody.com and there you will find an updated list.

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-10-17T00:22:45+00:00

    I have exactly similar worries....I did download W10 and found it to be nothing but a trashy advertising platform from start to finish...it also deleated my expensive security program and seemed to have lost about 450 GBytes of videos buried in there under all the you can buy me!!! apps on every page...thank somebody to have included a way of getting rid of the nasty thing......only now I have about 23 gwx files (all W10 downloading ****) stuck in my computer....and when you get into it and try to delete them yoou are denied permission because  Trustedinstaller owns them......I'm afraid now of accepting any updates for fear W10 is being snuck in through the backdoor.......This is a form of Malware by any definition........even down to deleating a very expensive Security program....which isn't supposre to happen....how do I get rid of all those gwx files????I want W10 out of my hair altogether.........I was so infuriated with what this program did  (primarily in seeming to have deleated450GBytes of data) I was about to call an attorney for being hit with fraud!!!

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  4. Anonymous
    2015-10-16T23:14:36+00:00

    Hi Canada Tech ,I have had the WU blocked since June , my computer has never worked better, just prior it was uploading hundreds of updates almost every time I turned it on , now it starts up instantly ,runs so smooth, probably better than any computer I have ever had

    My question is what if I never turn WU back on ?my fears now are that if I let it update there will be tens of thousands of WU's just waiting to infest my computer

    ATB and thanks for all the great info

    Andy

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  5. Anonymous
    2015-10-16T21:02:44+00:00

    Two choices:  One by Woody Leonhard:

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/2993131/microsoft-windows/disable-windows-10-upgrade-nagware-on-windows-7-windows-81-computers.html

    My recommendations:

    http://www.canadiantech.info/for-techies/prevent-windows-10/

    I have advised my clients to do what I have dreaded doing for years — turn off Automatic Windows Update.

    The problem is stems from an incessant drive by Microsoft to install Windows 10 on your computer without your permission.  They keep re-installing KB3035583 (that is the enabler) on your computer, even if you uninstall and hide it.  The result is the huge download and then constant nags without an apparent way to say no.

    So I have advised my clients to shut down WU.  Once a month on the 2nd Tuesday, they will get an email from me advising to manually start WU and then to reject specific updates like KB3035583.  Then update.  WU remains on NEVER.

    Some may scoff at this idea.  Well they are incorrect.  Never means you are never giving Microsoft a chance to decide what you download and install.  It does NOT mean you will never update.  The difference is that now you take control and the responsibility of updating of Windows and Office.

    Some may believe that Microsoft would not do such a stupid thing.  You must read Woody Leonhard (one of the most respected writers in the trade)  http://www.infoworld.com/article/2983777/microsoft-windows/how-to-clean-the-windows-10-crapware-off-your-windows-7-or-81-pc.html?nsdr=true Woody calls the Windows 10 download “crapware.”

    If you see the Windows flag on the bottom right of your screen, chances are pretty high, your computer already has the Win10 file. Even if you do not, it may be on your computer shortly anyway.  Here are instructions on how to rid yourself of it:

    If you are using windows 7, and have not installed win10 and do not want it, here is a procedure that I have used many times and it works.

    This process works, but it only works if you do all the steps and do them in order.

    1. Take Windows Update off automatic — Never check for updates
    2. Task Manager, processes, find and end GWX.exe
    3. Windows Update, Installed updates, WAIT a long time till you see the green bar complete its long trip to the right
    4. Now, search for KB3035583, uninstall it
    5. If there are others you want to uninstall, click Later
    6. Then, clear the search box and after a brief wait, enter another KB number.
    7. Restart the PC
    8. Disk cleanup — this takes a while.  It is a 2 step process.   After the initial window appears, click the “Clean up system files” button
    9. You may find a “Temporary Windows Installation files” there that is anywhere from 4 to 8 Gigabytes.  It is the Win10 downloaded file. Put a check mark on that item.
    10. OK, Delete Files
    11. Restart
    12. The startup will take a long time while it finishes cleanup

    Alternatively, you will find a solution in a Woody Leonhard article:

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/2979572/microsoft-windows/gwx-stopper-an-easy-way-to-permanently-delete-get-windows-10-nagware-in-windows-7-and-81.html

    If you choose “check for updates, but let me choose whether to download and install them”, Microsoft will download an “important” updates like KB3035583 to your computer.  It will be pre-checked — selected.  Unless you check Windows Update (WU) and discover this BEFORE you shut down, it will install it during the shut-down process.   Hiding accomplishes nothing.

    If you are going to take control of your computer and prevent Microsoft from downloading and installing their malware, you have to lock them out altogether.

    I am advising my clients that they take full control and responsibility for WU from now on.  I will advise them each 2nd Tuesday of the month on the to start WU, uncheck specific updates and complete the update.  For now, KB3035583 and KB2952664 are on that list.  As well as KB2977759, KB3075249, KB3080149, KB3083710, KB3083324,  KB3022345, KB3090045 and  KB3068708.

    You will find a constantly updated list of updates to reject at Ask Woody (Woody Leonhard) http://www.askwoody.com/category/microsoft-windows-patches-security/

    This is more than annoying.  It goes way beyond that.  It is underhanded, dishonest and just plain wrong for Microsoft to do this.  There is no offer to accept or refuse.  There is no informed consent.  There is not even an idea of what it is your getting and what the result is if you change your mind.

    This will happen to your computer whether you asked for it or not!

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/2983777/microsoft-windows/how-to

    -clean-the-windows-10-crapware-off-your-windows-7-or-81-pc.html?nsdr=true

    Once you have it downloaded to your computer, it will nag you very frequently and not offer you an option to stop it or reject it.  It will not even allow you to update Windows 7 any longer.

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