KB3035583 Installing Windows 10 using Windows Update?

I've got to admit that I used to work for Microsoft, but that doesn't sway me one way or the other.  I've said negative things about them too.

But there are facts and there are people who will never like Microsoft.  I try to be reasonable but I do sometimes blow it.

I'm also a fan of 8.1; I almost NEVER use their "metro" ****. The first thing I do when I boot my system is to press Win+D to get to the screen where I "live" on it.

You're right, of course, in some instances, however, I do not consider myself much of an amateur, my doctorate is in computer science.  But a massive hemorrhagic stroke wiped much of what I knew out of my memory.  Putting it in other words, my biological RAM is shot.  I rely on a portable voice recorder or my smart phone to remember things I need to remember.  I can't even program anymore.  All those hours of study and practice gone down the tubes.

Despite that, I've nothing about which to complain--I am alive and 99% of all people with my type of stroke are buried.

It happens that I agree with her about the fact that many people are too careless to read the agreement.  It's just that this issue is not at stake in this case.

wdburt1,

I agree with your last post. It appears that Microsoft is using any means necessary (regardless of whether those means are legal or ethical) to boost Windows 10 installation numbers.

However, we may want to give BeverlyMargolis-Kurtin the benefit of the doubt.

In her previous posts in these forums she says this (regarding Microsoft) ...

"I am seriously considering going to Apple; I've not heard of problems like this with their O/S. Angry?  Yup."

... and this ....

This is the most infuriating thing MS has done.  There seems to be NO answers, just basic troubleshooting nonsense.  Guess I've got to get rid of all my Windows PCs and see what Apple has to offer.  I'm sick of this.

So, she hardly seems to be one who would defend Microsoft.

Just my two cents.

You try to come across as the voice of reason but in fact your ignorance is showing.  Only amateurs believe that the text of an agreement is the last word on the subject.  Agreements are made within a context of statutes, regulation, and most importantly, legal precedents.  And this governing law does not look favorably on the notion that contracts mean whatever one party wants, especially where it holds all the power in the relationship.

A license, not ownership--yes.  But that does not mean that Microsoft can terminate the licensee's enjoyment and use of the licensed product at will, especially if it uses force or fraud to do so.  When he or she paid the license fee, he or she paid for something more than a mere privilege cancelable at Microsoft's whim.  The licensee has a position analogous to that of a residential leaseholder.  He or she is entitled to "quiet possession" so long as he or see complies with a limited set of rules explicitly agreed to.  There is an even more fundamental concept of fitness for purpose, which will in this case restrict any move by Microsoft to cripple or replace a licensee's existing software. 

Microsoft's legal argument--when it gets to that--no doubt will attempt to blur the distinction between updates that are the good of the user (security updates being the obvious example) and updates that are really only for the good of Microsoft.  From the company's viewpoint, replacing Windows 7 with Windows 10 is for the good of the user.  I'd like to see if the judge can keep a straight face when Microsoft's attorney tries to argue that in court.

You, by the way, win the gold star for being the first person I have seen on several online forums who tried to defend what Microsoft is doing.

Actually, folks, we do NOT own our operating systems; read the contract you agreed to and you'll discover that you only own a LICENSE and not the O/S.  Microsoft retains its rights to ownership.

What?  You never READ the contract?  That is one of the biggest problems most Americans deal with.  They just click the OK button rather than read the l..o..n..g contract.  That is how the we get bamboozled into spending money we did not expect to pay.  

So...either read the contract or deal with the consequences.