KB3035583 Installing Windows 10 using Windows Update?

Anonymous
2015-04-12T11:56:46+00:00

Would you please tell me how to prevent the installation of KB3035583 in my computer and if it is already installed, how to remove it?  Also, are there other updates that we need to be concerned about that enable this behaviour?

KB3035583 now appears as an Important update in Windows Update and is checked which means it will be automatically installed if the user does not uncheck it.  If automatic update is set, it will install without intervention.

There are credible articles that say that Microsoft either has installed or will install changes to my computer that will enable Microsoft to use it as an advertising platform and then install Windows 10 without first obtaining an informed decision to do so.  I truly hope this is not true.

On behalf of my clients and their 162 Windows "consumer" computers, I must tell you that we do not grant Microsoft or any other vendor the right to do this.  When other Windows players do this, we regard it as malware and take great care to remove it.

Microsoft got to where it is today by selling Windows.  We have spent decades learning how to use Windows and billions of dollars buying Windows computers and Windows software.  We own these systems.  They are ours, not Microsoft's.

Windows Update has earned a huge trust.  We trust Microsoft to use Windows Update to keep our computers safe and secure.  When Patch Tuesday comes along we install all the updates that Microsoft says are "important." We assume those to be either plugging a security leak or fixing a software error.

We all hope Windows 10 will be something we will want.  We will carefully review and consult trusted advisors before we install Windows 10.  We have seen Windows 8 and rejected it.  Windows 8 is a bad product we did not choose.  

Automatically installing Windows 10 on our computers would be a severe abuse of a well-earned trust.  Changing our computers to enable them to become advertising platforms is also an abuse.

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  1. Anonymous
    2015-12-31T22:43:09+00:00

    Your reply has little or nothing to do with my post, which is all right, so long as we understand that you just wanted to express your enthusiasm for Windows 10.

    In this regard you can be counted upon the millions and millions of users whom M$ says "love" Win10.  But I do not agree with you, nor, more fundamentally, do I agree that those who have paid a license fee for earlier versions of Windows should have their quiet possession disturbed by M$. 

    Personally, I have yet to see a list of Win10 features that adds up to a compelling reason to upgrade from Windows 7.  I question whether Win10 is that much more secure than Win7, and I don't see its developers saying much about its being more stable.  If the proposition is that I should accept having my computers constantly transmitting data (including content) to M$ so that it will be easier to recover from a crash, then no thanks.  Anyone who has experienced telephone support these days ought to think twice about placing such reliance upon a corporate behemoth, particularly one that has played so fast and loose with ethics recently.

    For me, and apparently for numerous others here, my priority is my productivity and enjoyment of my computers, and assuming that M$S eventually produces a worthwhile upgrade, I will make the change only after the benefits exceed the costs, particularly the downtime and retraining.  That time is not today, nor is it when M$ believes they have made the case, nor when they become anxious to show Wall Street that they have a viable business model.

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  2. Monkey57 3,535 Reputation points
    2015-12-31T18:54:56+00:00

    Outside of corporate concerns, or game configuration(up for discussion), or custom programs..... not sure why some users want to stay with win7 or win8x..... over ubuntu or knoppix..... between linux and windows... currently, I like what win10 gives the user.... most import a quick way to reset and recover data, when unanticipated things happen, that can not be resolved with quick research.....   every installed program/app phones home, every operating system phones home.....

    https://www.glasswire.com/

    can help the paranoid...  and there are many other tools to see things running the novice user does not see (autoruns, process explorer, etc).

    A reset to usage on a win7 computer can be painful... and win7 can not be ,fairly, compared to current operating systems from other vendors, like apple, google, and the many linux offerings......  Win10 for me, and most of my small business customers, is a safer, more versatile, and more useful operating system, but not the only one i depend on....

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-12-31T08:03:01+00:00

    There are a few questions I'd like to ask:

    1. Windows 7 CZ: Why I cannot unistall some updates ? KB3083710, KB3083324, KB3090045, KB3022345, KB3068708. Even "wusa /uninstall /kb:NNNNNNN /quiet /norestart" didn't help.
    2. Windows 8.x Home Premium CZ: Why it takes such a long time to restart after uninstall? In some cases it takes more than an hour (!!!) until the computer is ready. KB3080149.
    3. Is there an exact order of "uninstalls"? What should be uninstalled in the first step, what should be uninstalled in the last step?
    4. Windows 7 & 8.x CZ: Why do I have to uninstall KB3035583 twice? The W10 update icon remains in the tray after the first uninstall & restart so that I have to uninstall it again. The icon disappears after the second uninstall & restart.

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  4. Anonymous
    2015-12-26T19:51:31+00:00

    Woody's point is a good one.  What is that Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 users are expecting Microsoft to do for us anyway?  Especially now that all efforts are devoted to pushing Windows 10? 

    Do we really expect M$ to offer functional improvements in older software, make them run faster or more efficiently, or clean up previous mistakes?  And what complaints do we have about, say, Win7 that causes us to hope that Windows Update will leave something good in our Christmas stockings?

    I look to the rogues in Redmond to continue delivering security updates, and that's only because they have made relatively clear (and perhaps enforceable) promises about how long they will provide such support.  My faith in those promises is not unqualified, and we may all be staring down the barrel if they begin to misrepresent what security updates contain or make other moves of the kind that have become depressingly familiar with this bunch.

    And a Happy New Year to all.

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  5. Anonymous
    2015-12-26T16:27:43+00:00

    Woody Leonhard, InfoWorld:

    "I'm still looking for a single example of a KB patch, other than a security patch, released in 2015 for Windows 7 or 8.1 that does something worthwhile for Win7 and 8.1 customers. (Time zone changes in Eastern Europe don't count.) Can you recall one?"

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/3016033/microsoft-windows/enough-already-microsoft-pushes-windows-nagware-patch-kb-3035583-for-sixth-time.html

    I believe we have come to the point (a complete reversal) where the threat of Microsoft malware from Windows Update exceeds that threat from browsing the web.

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