Windows Media Center Guide not Updating TV Listings from Zap2It past tuesday.21.07.15

Anonymous
2015-07-19T09:23:20+00:00

Overview:  Windows Media Center (WMC) is provided TV Listings, via the WMC Guide, from Zap2It.  If you go to the Zap2It TV Listings website*, there are approx 2 weeks of upcoming TV Listings.  When the WMC Guide is Updated, & functions correctly, those same 2 weeks of TV Listings are downloaded to WMC.  If we could use the Zap2It website to program the recording of TV programs, then we wouldn't need the WMC Guide to be downloaded. 

It's very early sunday asof this posting; the WMC Guide hasn't actually Updated for ~9 days... there are only TV Listings through this tuesday, in ~3 days.  The WMC Guide Update seems to run just fine, it's connecting with the site or source or whatever/wherever it gets the Guide from... but it say, "The Eps Listing Is Already Up To Date", even though, clearly, it is NOT 'up-to-date'.  I'm now getting, 'You've only got 3 days of listings!, you need to update the Guide !' scare-messages every time I go to WMC, & I click to Update the Guide, but just as when I manually run it, just as when WMC automatically runs the Guide Update, it ain't actually Updating! 

To be clear:  I'm using Win7Pro64bit; all--ALL--updates, for all software, Windows & otherwise, are daily checked & constantly kept up-to-date; there have been no changes to the computer, & it runs like a dream; WMC works the same, the WMC Guide Update works exactly the same, the only exception being this, "The EPG Listings Package is already up to date" thing, when it hasn't actually Updated the WMC Guide. 

So PLEASE don't post those standard, boilerplate replies about updating Windows &or clearing caches &or other such sophomoric hooey...  The problem is almost certainly with the Microsoft/Windows/WMC/Zap2It interface. 

You can go to the Zap2It website* yourself!, go there!, see for yourself!, the next 2 weeks of TV Listings are right there!... 

 ... so, why aren't those TV-Listings--already & always present--being actually downloaded to WMC?, why isn't the WMC Guide being Updated? 

 ... thank you! 

w 

[* http://zap2it.com/ | http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ ]

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Anonymous
2015-07-21T03:48:22+00:00

Hello hank1111, 

You might check out this thread, especially the most recent replies, bottom of page 3 I think: 

Windows Media Center Guide Not Updating

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows\_xp-pictures/windows-media-center-guide-not-updating/8721f207-a694-43ce-bf38-6105968af080

I am NO expert on any of this stuff, but if ya' twisted my arm, I'd suggest the same possibility to you as I did to RW: 

"If you've still got your Windows OS CD maybe you could try removing & then reinstalling Windows Media Center entirely?... I'm sure there's a way to do this, but you'd want to get explicit instructions from someplace/someone who knows what they're about.  Also, if it's possible to do a total removal/uninstall & reinstall, -vs- some sort of 'repair', I would do the full thing, as the mere 'repair' might leave old, outdated WMC Guide EPG files that might bring you right back to this same sorry state-of-affairs!" 

 ... good luck hank! 

w

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  1. Anonymous
    2015-08-18T16:31:01+00:00

    Where does a Vista user get the updates that will "bring their WMC guide format in line with Win 7 and later versions?"  Vista Task Scheduler does not list ObjectStoreRecoveryTask, express or advanced options .

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-08-18T16:09:02+00:00

    Thanks for your post. If you come across a fix for Win XP Media Center 2005, please post that as well.

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-08-18T15:59:32+00:00

    PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!    THIS WORKS!!!     THIS WORKS!!!

    DO THIS:

    Is WMC’s(Windows Media Center) EPG(Electronic Progam Guide) showing “No Data Available”?

    Are you using OTA(Over-The-Air) service?

    The problem is that WMC does not know where to find the data for the EPG. Around July 26, 2015 Windows change data providers from Zap2It to Rovi. Microsoft and Rovi were ill prepared for this changeover. To do the changeover WMC needs to change from the Zap2It to Rovi for its’ Guide. WMC should change data sources by running WMC Setup. Setup fails to change data sources for three reasons.

    1. Setup cannot complete this task until it recognizes Rovi as the guide.
    2. Rovi needs a valid zipcode, and this is important, that Rovi is providing data for
    3. WMC needs to know where get to Rovi data

    Let’s solve issue 2 first. Rovi’s zipcode data base has massive holes. To find a zipcode that will work for you. Go to MSN Website populated by Rovi data and find a working provider.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/tv-listings

    In the search menu keep entering cities till the drop down menu produces a provider that will work for you. Most cities will not provide an OTA option. Since Setup will not accept cities you still need to find a zipcode within that city that will work. (I live in Atlanta and had to use a zipcode from 30 miles away 30601.) Enter that zipcode make certain that the website populates with data that is useful to you. Write it down, this will be zipcode that Setup needs.

    Now let’s deal with issue 3. Helping WMC find the Rovi data source on the web.

    close WMC

    click start button

    type CMD in search box

    right click CMD and run as administrator

    cd c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc

    notepad hosts

    Add the following 2 lines

    65.55.186.113 data.tvdownload.microsoft.com

    72.246.56.59 cdn.epg.tvdownload.microsoft.com

    (if there are other lines in your file that are for data.tvdownload.microsoft.com or cdn.epg.tvdownload.microsoft.com comment them out by placing a # at the beginning of the line)

    save the file and exit notepad

    in your cmd window

    ipconfig /flushdns

    click start button

    in search box type taskschd.msc

    after task scheduler opens

    In the left tree expand Task Scheduler Library, Microsoft, Windows

    click on Media Center folder to highlight it

    In the upper window of the center section scroll through the activities under the Name column.

    right-click ObjectStoreRecoveryTask, and click Run

    Let this run for a minute or two

    Reboot and re-open WMC. You will receive a warning that WMC corrected a problem and will download the Guide EPG data again

    Tasks > Settings > General > Windows Media Center Setup

    Use the Advanced instead of the Express option.

    Remember to use the zipcode from the MSN Rovi website!

    What is this is doing: 1) hard coding the lookup for data.tvdownload.microsoft.com and cdn.epg.tvdownload.microsoft.com. As soon as you put entries like this in your hosts file the DNS that you are using no longer matters. This eliminates the need to change your DNS to google or open DNS. 2) ipconfig /flushdns removes any caches entries for the items listed in your hosts file. 3) the task scheduler run removes your epg guide while you have a valid zip code. This forces WMC to completely re download the epg from the ip address listed in your hosts file.

    Most of this text is from post #1224 and was originally posted by kdurbin82. Credit goes to him for the solution to WMC finding the data site. I did make syntax change to his text, /dnsflush would not work for me I had to use /flushdns. My real contribution to his post largely has to do with finding a working zipcode which is particularly important to OTA consumers.

    What you see above is what worked for me after running more than forty fixes and setups. I finally reinstalled Window 7 OS and use the above steps now WMC seems to be working fine.

    THIS FIX WAS FOUND HERE:

    http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/search.php?keywords=kdurbin82&t=8903&sf=msgonly

    Major APPLAUSE to kdurbin82 and hueyatl1 !!!

    After several days of trying various fixes to get my guide back and nothing working, your fix worked for both my Windows 7 Pro and Windows 8.1 HDTV Windows Media Center systems!! (placing the IP addresses in the Windows host file and the rest)

    kdurbin82 and hueyatl1, THANK YOU very, very, very, very, much!!!!!

    My systems were both locked on to the Zap2it guide download and would not change to Rovi until I tried your fix.

    Thanks again!

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  4. Anonymous
    2015-08-15T18:45:53+00:00

    Not exactly true. Windows Vista users need to apply the updates that will bring their WMC guide format in line with Win 7 and later versions. It is true that if the updates are not applied, Win Vista will not be able to use the current media guide format. Alas, since Win XP is no longer supported at all by MS, no such upgrade is available for these users.

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