SECDRV.SYS Not Loading in Windows 10; this will break thousands of older games.

Anonymous
2015-08-01T20:13:40+00:00

Hello,

I have discovered an unfortunate problem with Windows 10.

Many games from the early-mid 2000's used Macrovision's SafeDisc (version 2) as a means of copy protection. At game startup, Windows loaded SECDRV.SYS to verify an original game disc was in the drive, after which the game would start.

When you try to run ANY game which uses this SafeDisc form of copy protection in Windows 10, the following happens:

 - You get an error window that tells you to log in with Administrator Privileges and to try again. This happens on any account, even those with Administrator access. The game fails to start.

 - If you then set "Run as Admin" compatibility mode on the game's startup file, the message disappears, but the game doesn't start.

 - Keeping a window open for C:\WINDOWS\SYSWOW64\DRIVERS shows SECDRV.SYS appearing at the moment you try to start the game. Based on its size, it appears to be the file that is present on the game disc (tested across several games), even though I see no disc activity and cannot find the file elsewhere on my system.

 - The Windows event log shows that SECDRV.SYS failed to load.

 - This happens both with an upgraded install (Windows 8.1 > Windows 10) and with a fresh Windows 10 install, with one of the games being installed immediately upon the fresh install completing.

 - On my Windows 64-bit 8.1 system, C:\WINDOWS\WINSXS has a folder called amd64_macrovision-protection-safedisc_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.16384_none_4e6b3758913c9240 with a SECDRV.SYS in it, presumably the one that ships with Windows. Windows 10 had such a folder in early builds, but it is missing from the release build. It appears SafeDisc support is missing entirely.

OTHER TESTING I HAVE DONE:

 - I updated one of the games to a version that no longer required the CD check, and it started immediately and ran perfectly once the check was removed. However, this is possible only with a very limited number of games, or resorting to fixes that violate the game's EULA or put the user's system security at risk.

 - I tried disabling driver signature verification and installing one of the games again; same problem.

 - Multiple compatibility modes; same problem. XP (Service Pack 3) mode and / or Run as Administrator mode make the error message go away, but the games still fail to launch.

SIGNIFICANCE:

Unless this is fixed in Windows 10, a massive catalog of older games will cease to function in Windows 10 for the simple reason that they cannot pass the SafeDisc copy protection check. I am accustomed to some games breaking with every new version of Windows as technology progresses (for example, the loss of the ability to run 16-bit programs in 64-bit Windows), but this seems to be an unnecessarily harsh change.

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  1. Anonymous
    2015-09-03T06:10:11+00:00

    Hi Adam! 

    I just got Windows 10. I was following along in your previous post, however when i try to enable test mode, and restart the computer as it suggests, nothing happens. No watermark shows up in the bottom right. I have also tried to enable driver signature in command prompt.

    I entered command "bcdedit -set testsigning on" the error i got is below. 

    "The boot configuration data store could not be opened"

    "Access is denied."

    I also tried to sign the driver "secdrv.sys" with the NG HQ program which it says it had done successfully but still no effect. 

    Look forward to hearing from you, thank you again for your time.

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-09-03T12:19:17+00:00

    The old way to run those older game right now is to dual boot an older SKU of Windows

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-09-06T03:14:00+00:00

    You have to run an admin command prompt.  Right click start and choose command prompt (admin).

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  4. Anonymous
    2015-09-06T21:38:07+00:00

    Easy to install by kids and than they couldn't play their games :-( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  5. Anonymous
    2015-09-09T03:21:31+00:00

    Adam,

    Thanks for the detailed info.

    I attempted your suggested workaround on the latest release of Win 10 Pro x64, and there is no change - first the 'permissions' alert, then when run as admin, - nothing.  Event log now shows:

    "The SecDrv service failed to start due to the following error:

    Windows cannot verify the digital signature for this file. A recent hardware or software change might have installed a file that is signed incorrectly or damaged, or that might be malicious software from an unknown source."

    That is a difference in symptoms from the originating post (and pre-dseo application) but the result is the same.

    I wonder if Microsoft saw your workaround and then put logic in a Win 10 update to defeat it.  Since they will say nothing other than "When Macrovision updates their driver for Windows 10...." which is BS.  Macrovision, - at least the part that deals with SecureDisk copy protection -  doesn't exist anymore in any way that anyone could request such an update to be made.  So, it appears the speculation that this is a Microsoft attempt to up its App Store sales is correct.

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