SECDRV.SYS Not Loading in Windows 10; this will break thousands of older games.

Anonymous
2015-08-01T20:13:40+00:00

Hello,

I have discovered an unfortunate problem with Windows 10.

Many games from the early-mid 2000's used Macrovision's SafeDisc (version 2) as a means of copy protection. At game startup, Windows loaded SECDRV.SYS to verify an original game disc was in the drive, after which the game would start.

When you try to run ANY game which uses this SafeDisc form of copy protection in Windows 10, the following happens:

 - You get an error window that tells you to log in with Administrator Privileges and to try again. This happens on any account, even those with Administrator access. The game fails to start.

 - If you then set "Run as Admin" compatibility mode on the game's startup file, the message disappears, but the game doesn't start.

 - Keeping a window open for C:\WINDOWS\SYSWOW64\DRIVERS shows SECDRV.SYS appearing at the moment you try to start the game. Based on its size, it appears to be the file that is present on the game disc (tested across several games), even though I see no disc activity and cannot find the file elsewhere on my system.

 - The Windows event log shows that SECDRV.SYS failed to load.

 - This happens both with an upgraded install (Windows 8.1 > Windows 10) and with a fresh Windows 10 install, with one of the games being installed immediately upon the fresh install completing.

 - On my Windows 64-bit 8.1 system, C:\WINDOWS\WINSXS has a folder called amd64_macrovision-protection-safedisc_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.16384_none_4e6b3758913c9240 with a SECDRV.SYS in it, presumably the one that ships with Windows. Windows 10 had such a folder in early builds, but it is missing from the release build. It appears SafeDisc support is missing entirely.

OTHER TESTING I HAVE DONE:

 - I updated one of the games to a version that no longer required the CD check, and it started immediately and ran perfectly once the check was removed. However, this is possible only with a very limited number of games, or resorting to fixes that violate the game's EULA or put the user's system security at risk.

 - I tried disabling driver signature verification and installing one of the games again; same problem.

 - Multiple compatibility modes; same problem. XP (Service Pack 3) mode and / or Run as Administrator mode make the error message go away, but the games still fail to launch.

SIGNIFICANCE:

Unless this is fixed in Windows 10, a massive catalog of older games will cease to function in Windows 10 for the simple reason that they cannot pass the SafeDisc copy protection check. I am accustomed to some games breaking with every new version of Windows as technology progresses (for example, the loss of the ability to run 16-bit programs in 64-bit Windows), but this seems to be an unnecessarily harsh change.

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  1. Anonymous
    2017-06-20T11:44:39+00:00

    Very late in the day have just discovered this problem.  I put off upgrading to Win 10 as long as possible and haven't played games for a long time, so didn't discover it before.  But tried to fire up Civ IV again, to find it no longer works.

    And the Steam-key-replacement option for that title stopped exactly a week prior to my finding the problem!  At least GoG had a working version at a cheap sale price.  I suppose a silver-lining is a lot of affected titles might by now be available cheaply though Steam or GoG sales.

    Is there a list anywhere of titles that are affected by this?

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  2. Anonymous
    2017-06-20T13:38:08+00:00

    You own the game legally, why should you buy it again? 

    I was in the same situation myself.  I installed the no-CD option for my game.  This also solved the issue for my Win 10 tablet, which of course has no physical CD at all.

    https://www.gamecopyworld.com/games/pc\_civilization\_4.shtml#Civilization%20IV%20v1.74%20[EU/US]%20UnProtected%20EXE

    I have bought Civ 5 from Steam rather than replace Civ 4.

    It is still ridiculous for MS to simply block this copy protection check from all PC's and break people's software.

    It is not reasonable for people to have to re-buy their old games.

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  4. Anonymous
    2017-06-20T15:30:41+00:00

    You can opt into installing SECDRV on your system. It isn't secure and it requires some steps you might not want on your primary OS, or even on your primary computer, such as disabling secure boot, but you can run all those games that need the CD in the tray if you choose to. One way is to dual boot Windows Insider Preview and shoot holes in that Windows installation instead of in your normal OS.

    Just look through this thread for the steps.

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  5. Anonymous
    2017-06-21T09:26:26+00:00

    This is not an ideal approach to this problem! Windows Insider Preview builds of Windows 10 are beta software! This means that with any given build, or update, any feature, or even the OS itself can/will potentially have bugs, glitches, crashes, and even fail to function at all.

    Insider preview builds should never be installed on your primary device, and should only be used for beta testing, and feedback purposes, just as Microsoft intended. Poking security holes in a (potentially) unstable BETA operating system can have unexpected results.

    I recommend against this approach.

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