SECDRV.SYS Not Loading in Windows 10; this will break thousands of older games.

Anonymous
2015-08-01T20:13:40+00:00

Hello,

I have discovered an unfortunate problem with Windows 10.

Many games from the early-mid 2000's used Macrovision's SafeDisc (version 2) as a means of copy protection. At game startup, Windows loaded SECDRV.SYS to verify an original game disc was in the drive, after which the game would start.

When you try to run ANY game which uses this SafeDisc form of copy protection in Windows 10, the following happens:

 - You get an error window that tells you to log in with Administrator Privileges and to try again. This happens on any account, even those with Administrator access. The game fails to start.

 - If you then set "Run as Admin" compatibility mode on the game's startup file, the message disappears, but the game doesn't start.

 - Keeping a window open for C:\WINDOWS\SYSWOW64\DRIVERS shows SECDRV.SYS appearing at the moment you try to start the game. Based on its size, it appears to be the file that is present on the game disc (tested across several games), even though I see no disc activity and cannot find the file elsewhere on my system.

 - The Windows event log shows that SECDRV.SYS failed to load.

 - This happens both with an upgraded install (Windows 8.1 > Windows 10) and with a fresh Windows 10 install, with one of the games being installed immediately upon the fresh install completing.

 - On my Windows 64-bit 8.1 system, C:\WINDOWS\WINSXS has a folder called amd64_macrovision-protection-safedisc_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.16384_none_4e6b3758913c9240 with a SECDRV.SYS in it, presumably the one that ships with Windows. Windows 10 had such a folder in early builds, but it is missing from the release build. It appears SafeDisc support is missing entirely.

OTHER TESTING I HAVE DONE:

 - I updated one of the games to a version that no longer required the CD check, and it started immediately and ran perfectly once the check was removed. However, this is possible only with a very limited number of games, or resorting to fixes that violate the game's EULA or put the user's system security at risk.

 - I tried disabling driver signature verification and installing one of the games again; same problem.

 - Multiple compatibility modes; same problem. XP (Service Pack 3) mode and / or Run as Administrator mode make the error message go away, but the games still fail to launch.

SIGNIFICANCE:

Unless this is fixed in Windows 10, a massive catalog of older games will cease to function in Windows 10 for the simple reason that they cannot pass the SafeDisc copy protection check. I am accustomed to some games breaking with every new version of Windows as technology progresses (for example, the loss of the ability to run 16-bit programs in 64-bit Windows), but this seems to be an unnecessarily harsh change.

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  1. Anonymous
    2017-01-12T12:26:44+00:00

    The only reason I added the bit about illegal noCD patches is because on more than one occasion, I've actually seen Microsoft engineers recommend this approach in the past.

    I know the kinds of things that corporations do in order to make profits, and it honestly sickens me. In the lats 10 or so years, the number of PC games I've actually paid for can be counted on one hand. All other non-free games that I have gotten for PC in that time were gifted to me. I like PC gaming for many reasons, but I'd rather pay for games on PS3, instead of my PC for obvious reasons.

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  2. Anonymous
    2017-01-12T21:35:14+00:00

    It's all totally wrong. Never before has anyone basically forced customers to bin their archives of legally purchased goods. My classic vinyl LP's , I decided to replace them with re-mastered CD's. I replaced my mobile phone when something new offered more. MS gave away ??? a free upgrade of OS. It came with Xbox app & automatic downloads, I ran straight back to Win 7. I can check if a latest update is a change of Latvian currency to Euro, that's the point all 10 users have basically handed their computers over to MS. Vista was junk, but everything since 7 has nothing of use to PC users, it's all for toy computers. Laptops & Tablets have the advantage of mobility, but phones are the market now. One OS for all of those , nonsense.

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  3. Anonymous
    2017-01-24T09:45:52+00:00

    These posts go back to 2015, I cannot play MYST URU, due to this issue. You would think that going back several years Microsoft would Engineers would have come up with a way to allow us to do this without having to search for illegal hacks on the internet. I have been through several iterations of trying to work around this but as noted in earlier posts, it appears that the only recourse is to downgrade this PC to 7 or maybe try moving over to using Macs.

    Microsoft, its 2017, can we provide some feedback on this thread so that we can finally use the games we paid for legally please ?

    Sure you enabled this for security but how about finding a way to at least switch this off so we can use our other products  that rely on this ?

    2017 People ... let's get with the program. I can't believe with all the complaints over so many years , the brilliant engineers at Microsoft have not come back with a way to fix this !!!!!!!!!!

    Stop ignoring the many users that have been so loyal in using your products.

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  4. Anonymous
    2017-01-24T15:51:43+00:00

    Basically MIcrosoft couldn't give a monkey's about you, me or anyone else who bought their software or anyone elses in the past. Once they have your money - tough. And as for the robots who reply on Microsoft's behalf to these posts !

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