Potentially worse news for everyone to come -- no matter your "Operating system". My Age of 2 "The age of kings" and "Conquerors" expansion, both quit working at the same time about a month and half ago. The issues I am reading about here and now are the same that then occurred using my windows 7. I have had the game since 1995 release and played it very often and through every new system, win95, xp, and windows 7 with no issues. I was hopeful upgrading to windows 10 would fix the problem. It did not. I get the same exact results with both windows 7 and now 10. I know the issue is delivered in the updates (in windows 7) as I did a complete reformat of my system. These updates, and many there are (205 in one instance alone) are delivered over several days to my system. After reformat Age of empires worked once again -- but only for 2 days of these updates -- then again no longer. I am going back to using windows 7 in any case, as, by the look and feel of windows 10 it is nothing I need or want. In my opinion just a lot of gadgets I do not need popping up and getting in the way of what I am trying to do. I know going back to windows 7 will not allow me to run the game. Perhaps it is a matter of figuring out which update is the root cause of the problem and forcing it not to load onto my system. But unfortunately that is out of the realm of my expertise. Mostly it is annoying that I do not know if this was in error and that there is a fix coming in a future update -- or as rumored -- this is intentional behavior on Microsoft's part for monetary gain. Whatever the case I'll not be buying any future form of these games or others that I already own and are now likely destined to fail.
SECDRV.SYS Not Loading in Windows 10; this will break thousands of older games.
Hello,
I have discovered an unfortunate problem with Windows 10.
Many games from the early-mid 2000's used Macrovision's SafeDisc (version 2) as a means of copy protection. At game startup, Windows loaded SECDRV.SYS to verify an original game disc was in the drive, after which the game would start.
When you try to run ANY game which uses this SafeDisc form of copy protection in Windows 10, the following happens:
- You get an error window that tells you to log in with Administrator Privileges and to try again. This happens on any account, even those with Administrator access. The game fails to start.
- If you then set "Run as Admin" compatibility mode on the game's startup file, the message disappears, but the game doesn't start.
- Keeping a window open for C:\WINDOWS\SYSWOW64\DRIVERS shows SECDRV.SYS appearing at the moment you try to start the game. Based on its size, it appears to be the file that is present on the game disc (tested across several games), even though I see no disc activity and cannot find the file elsewhere on my system.
- The Windows event log shows that SECDRV.SYS failed to load.
- This happens both with an upgraded install (Windows 8.1 > Windows 10) and with a fresh Windows 10 install, with one of the games being installed immediately upon the fresh install completing.
- On my Windows 64-bit 8.1 system, C:\WINDOWS\WINSXS has a folder called amd64_macrovision-protection-safedisc_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.16384_none_4e6b3758913c9240 with a SECDRV.SYS in it, presumably the one that ships with Windows. Windows 10 had such a folder in early builds, but it is missing from the release build. It appears SafeDisc support is missing entirely.
OTHER TESTING I HAVE DONE:
- I updated one of the games to a version that no longer required the CD check, and it started immediately and ran perfectly once the check was removed. However, this is possible only with a very limited number of games, or resorting to fixes that violate the game's EULA or put the user's system security at risk.
- I tried disabling driver signature verification and installing one of the games again; same problem.
- Multiple compatibility modes; same problem. XP (Service Pack 3) mode and / or Run as Administrator mode make the error message go away, but the games still fail to launch.
SIGNIFICANCE:
Unless this is fixed in Windows 10, a massive catalog of older games will cease to function in Windows 10 for the simple reason that they cannot pass the SafeDisc copy protection check. I am accustomed to some games breaking with every new version of Windows as technology progresses (for example, the loss of the ability to run 16-bit programs in 64-bit Windows), but this seems to be an unnecessarily harsh change.
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
2015-10-22T17:19:11+00:00 Seems a lawsuit is inevitable on this.
I bought the game, and I wish to play it.
I downloaded Windows 10 and the game was disabled.
I went back to Windows 7 but it's no longer usable.
I want a refund for Age of Empires.
I will not be accepting new downloads, I can no longer believe in Microsoft.
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Anonymous
2015-10-22T16:29:48+00:00 Thanks. I went back to 7, and I'll read up on Dual Boot.
Just an old guy who needs to play Age of Empires II. And NOT a "new" version.
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Anonymous
2015-10-22T05:31:37+00:00 Okay people. Has anyone else had this problem while still on Windows 8.1? I believe it was installed in an update on Windows 8.1 for me and ever since then, i couldn't launch need for speed underground (2003. pretty obvious it uses safedisc) so i tried upgrading to Windows 10, and obviously that did absolutely nothing
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Anonymous
2015-10-04T11:01:54+00:00 Steam fits the definition of malware to a "T". Third party software should not be necessary to run already purchased programs just because Microsoft has chosen to make these old disks unusable. Nobody should be railroaded into having to go the Steam route. GOG would be a better way to go, buy who wants to pay again to use a piece of software just because Microsoft has chosen to make one's original copy unusable?