SECDRV.SYS Not Loading in Windows 10; this will break thousands of older games.

Paul, Thank you for responding, but that doesn't really answer the question, people require this for windows 10, unlike some people on here I actually don't mind windows 10 and find it very usable,but what I do mind is being told that the £1000 pounds plus i've spent on games over the last 20 years has just been thrown down the bog creating a very expensive collection of coasters. With every iteration of windows I have bought I have been able to use those games( I only did 95,98,xp and then 7) and up until last year I was still able to play those games. I understand MS reasoning behind it but unless they offer a viable solution they will continually isolate people and breed this hatred towards there monopolistic attitude(might I suggest you get an Apple PR guy to help with this :-P ). Now back on point a lot of these publishers are no longer around to reach out to or have been swallowed by larger companies who don't acknowledge ever taking on that companies titles...Micropose...anyone. There are a large portion of society like myself who you know what don't want to play there favourite game online with millions of others, I actually like being able to play single player games Starlancer, MW series, these were not realistically online games but had that great single player campaign( I know its not a great business model but I love these old games not available anymore). Basically not being able to play them because of the loop whole DRM and SecDRV present to your system wasn't my problem until you have now made it my problem by denying me something I have bought at the counter, and before you reply with try admin rights and compatability mode - lets be honest there about as much use as a chocolate fireguard purely because of this drm secdrv business.. Thanks for your time and I look forward to your response( I shall not be holding my breath though) and I would like to offer you a challenge-provide a fix for windows 10 users-**** even sell it because you could guarantee one customer...me

Here, here.

I could not have put it better, without resorting to vulgarity.

Whilst I may not have spent quite as much as you appear to have, nevertheless I am very annoyed that the add-ons in particular for what was a Microsoft product - Microsoft Flight Simulator X (Deluxe Version) cannot be loaded onto my new PC which I have had to invest in following the failure of my old machine.

Please, please Microsoft let us have a fix for the SecDRV issue.

Paul,

Thank you for responding, but that doesn't really answer the question, people require this for windows 10, unlike some people on here I actually don't mind windows 10 and find it very usable,but what I do mind is being told that the £1000 pounds plus i've spent on games over the last 20 years has just been thrown down the bog creating a very expensive collection of coasters. With every iteration of windows I have bought I have been able to use those games( I only did 95,98,xp and then 7) and up until last year I was still able to play those games. I understand MS reasoning behind it but unless they offer a viable solution they will continually isolate people and breed this hatred towards there monopolistic attitude(might I suggest you get an Apple PR guy to help with this :-P ).

Now back on point a lot of these publishers are no longer around to reach out to or have been swallowed by larger companies who don't acknowledge ever taking on that companies titles...Micropose...anyone. There are a large portion of society like myself who you know what don't want to play there favourite game online with millions of others, I actually like being able to play single player games Starlancer, MW series, these were not realistically online games but had that great single player campaign( I know its not a great business model but I love these old games not available anymore).

Basically not being able to play them because of the loop whole DRM and SecDRV present to your system wasn't my problem until you have now made it my problem by denying me something I have bought at the counter, and before you reply with try admin rights and compatability mode - lets be honest there about as much use as a chocolate fireguard purely because of this drm secdrv business..

Thanks for your time and I look forward to your response( I shall not be holding my breath though) and I would like to offer you a challenge-provide a fix for windows 10 users-**** even sell it because you could guarantee one customer...me

It seems Nickellys is on the right track with the driver signing being the true issue with your software.

There is also an option to disable driver signing -

how-to-disable-driver-signature-verification-on-64-bit-windows

Selecting Windows XP SP 3 was sufficient to have the software running."

This should have nothing to do with DRM Blocking. Using Compatibility for an older OS sometimes helps to get

older software up and running.

It's only when there is a secdrv.sys  file on the disk that DRM Blocking  rears it's evil ugly head.

• From what I've seen, games with either  SecuROM or SafeDisc have the secdrv.sys file on the disk.

Games or software without this file on the disk will not be blocked by the MS malware.

You may well have  SECDRV.sys file in your Win10 install (mine is in sysWOW64), but DRM Blocking does not

prevent it's installation, only activation (fortunately for users of older software and games).

"One more point : the "sc config secdrv ..." or "sc start secdrv" commands  work normally on my computer but receive an error message "service has been blocked" on the other computer."

How you are able to circumvent DRM Blocking on a Win10 machine is a mystery.

I hadn't tried the commands with Win10 as the support page with the commands only refers to Win8/8.1,

but when I tried them a minute ago the command was blocked. Which seems to confirm that

DRM Blocking is well and truly integrated into Win10 (using 1511 update, atm).

• Regarding 32 vs 64 bit. 

Prior to the DRM Blocking issue, there are also a few instances of various DRM which don't recognise

64bit OS's as legitimate.

I have at least one game with what may have been more notorious than even SecuROM - StarForce

('protect.dll' ) - which will not will not allow the game to load on any 64bit OS

(with an error message something to the effect of  Win7 not being recognised as a legitimate OS).

• I recall another game or two that would do something in relation to the DRM on rebooting the machine.

I don't recall the details (they were installed on Win7 years ago), but a noCD is required to run these games.

Games released between '04 - '06 are the most likely to have (non-Win10 DRM Blocking) DRM issues,  such as these.

• Just two examples of how DRM punishes the legitimate user (or used to, as it's all on line one user activation

these days - say goodbye to second hand games ). Meanwhile the pirates laugh at the copy protection attempts. There can be times when a pirate is an honest persons hero.

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KB3086255 is the culprit. Stay away from 10 go back to Windows7 and delete this update. Since I did that Age of Empires works just fine.

Thanks. That's the answer I needed.