SECDRV.SYS Not Loading in Windows 10; this will break thousands of older games.

Anonymous
2015-08-01T20:13:40+00:00

Hello,

I have discovered an unfortunate problem with Windows 10.

Many games from the early-mid 2000's used Macrovision's SafeDisc (version 2) as a means of copy protection. At game startup, Windows loaded SECDRV.SYS to verify an original game disc was in the drive, after which the game would start.

When you try to run ANY game which uses this SafeDisc form of copy protection in Windows 10, the following happens:

 - You get an error window that tells you to log in with Administrator Privileges and to try again. This happens on any account, even those with Administrator access. The game fails to start.

 - If you then set "Run as Admin" compatibility mode on the game's startup file, the message disappears, but the game doesn't start.

 - Keeping a window open for C:\WINDOWS\SYSWOW64\DRIVERS shows SECDRV.SYS appearing at the moment you try to start the game. Based on its size, it appears to be the file that is present on the game disc (tested across several games), even though I see no disc activity and cannot find the file elsewhere on my system.

 - The Windows event log shows that SECDRV.SYS failed to load.

 - This happens both with an upgraded install (Windows 8.1 > Windows 10) and with a fresh Windows 10 install, with one of the games being installed immediately upon the fresh install completing.

 - On my Windows 64-bit 8.1 system, C:\WINDOWS\WINSXS has a folder called amd64_macrovision-protection-safedisc_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.16384_none_4e6b3758913c9240 with a SECDRV.SYS in it, presumably the one that ships with Windows. Windows 10 had such a folder in early builds, but it is missing from the release build. It appears SafeDisc support is missing entirely.

OTHER TESTING I HAVE DONE:

 - I updated one of the games to a version that no longer required the CD check, and it started immediately and ran perfectly once the check was removed. However, this is possible only with a very limited number of games, or resorting to fixes that violate the game's EULA or put the user's system security at risk.

 - I tried disabling driver signature verification and installing one of the games again; same problem.

 - Multiple compatibility modes; same problem. XP (Service Pack 3) mode and / or Run as Administrator mode make the error message go away, but the games still fail to launch.

SIGNIFICANCE:

Unless this is fixed in Windows 10, a massive catalog of older games will cease to function in Windows 10 for the simple reason that they cannot pass the SafeDisc copy protection check. I am accustomed to some games breaking with every new version of Windows as technology progresses (for example, the loss of the ability to run 16-bit programs in 64-bit Windows), but this seems to be an unnecessarily harsh change.

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  1. Anonymous
    2018-03-18T17:12:38+00:00

    Yes - it IS Microsoft's fault. My problems are with |MIcrosoft's own games !

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-08-11T14:53:12+00:00

    I recommend avoiding the link in the post just above mine (which begins "I had a similar problem and finally solved it by purchasing a new key from"); a "key" would not solve the problem described in this thread, which is a driver support issue. It's probably a malware link.

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-08-08T13:57:37+00:00

    Hello,

    I have discovered an unfortunate problem with Windows 10.

    Many games from the early-mid 2000's used Macrovision's SafeDisc (version 2) as a means of copy protection. At game startup, Windows loaded SECDRV.SYS to verify an original game disc was in the drive, after which the game would start.

    When you try to run ANY game which uses this SafeDisc form of copy protection in Windows 10, the following happens:

     - You get an error window that tells you to log in with Administrator Privileges and to try again. This happens on any account, even those with Administrator access. The game fails to start.

     - If you then set "Run as Admin" compatibility mode on the game's startup file, the message disappears, but the game doesn't start.

     - Keeping a window open for C:\WINDOWS\SYSWOW64\DRIVERS shows SECDRV.SYS appearing at the moment you try to start the game. Based on its size, it appears to be the file that is present on the game disc (tested across several games), even though I see no disc activity and cannot find the file elsewhere on my system.

     - The Windows event log shows that SECDRV.SYS failed to load.

     - This happens both with an upgraded install (Windows 8.1 > Windows 10) and with a fresh Windows 10 install, with one of the games being installed immediately upon the fresh install completing.

     - On my Windows 64-bit 8.1 system, C:\WINDOWS\WINSXS has a folder called amd64_macrovision-protection-safedisc_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.16384_none_4e6b3758913c9240 with a SECDRV.SYS in it, presumably the one that ships with Windows. Windows 10 had such a folder in early builds, but it is missing from the release build. It appears SafeDisc support is missing entirely.

    OTHER TESTING I HAVE DONE:

     - I updated one of the games to a version that no longer required the CD check, and it started immediately and ran perfectly once the check was removed. However, this is possible only with a very limited number of games, or resorting to fixes that violate the game's EULA or put the user's system security at risk.

     - I tried disabling driver signature verification and installing one of the games again; same problem.

     - Multiple compatibility modes; same problem. XP (Service Pack 3) mode and / or Run as Administrator mode make the error message go away, but the games still fail to launch.

    SIGNIFICANCE:

    Unless this is fixed in Windows 10, a massive catalog of older games will cease to function in Windows 10 for the simple reason that they cannot pass the SafeDisc copy protection check. I am accustomed to some games breaking with every new version of Windows as technology progresses (for example, the loss of the ability to run 16-bit programs in 64-bit Windows), but this seems to be an unnecessarily harsh change.

    I have the same problem , downloaded MS 10 and then was  unable to get FS( 2004 ) to run despite trouble free reinstall and the app on desktop !!! got the same message about Admin permission . Tried all kinds of things including creating a second Admin Name ?? Also have a FSX disk and tried that to see if that would go because I don't think it required the second disk to be in the drive . It started to go then just sat their for 15 minutes with the drive just whineing away !!! I know there are a few spots that you have to wait awhile before it progresses on but this seemed way to long so I canceled it.  I'm a private pilot and I have a few bucks tied up in the Saitec yoke , throttle Quardrant and rudder which has been working great with windows 8 so this is one big disaster for me ( relatively speaking of course )

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  4. Anonymous
    2015-08-09T16:32:32+00:00

    Freelancer has the same issues and that's a Microsoft game! (an old one true)

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  5. Anonymous
    2015-08-06T04:57:33+00:00

    I and thousands of players in my game forum have the same problem. Looking forward MS fix this issue.

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