KB3023607 repeatedly removed by deepclean after KB3032359/KB3021952 (5.2mb ea) repeatedly offered/installed...

Anonymous
2015-03-15T22:40:10+00:00

KB3021952 (Feb "Cumulative" Update for IE) invloves a "bundled" update, it includes KB3023607. KB3032359 (March "Cumulative" Update for IE) is "bundled" it includes KB3040335 & KB3023607 (Again???) KB3032359 (allegedly) supersedes KB3021952 but both are needed along with KB3023607 to have a fully patched system. The problem occurs when Windows Update Cleanup (deepclean) is run after all patches are installed, it removes KB3023607, the "bundled" update as superseded :

2015-03-12 09:31:26, Info CBS Adding: Package_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.0

2015-03-12 09:31:31, Info CBS DC: Package_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.0: unique components: 58 Size: 20.54 MB (21,538,670 bytes) 2015-03-12 09:31:31, Info CBS Total size of superseded packages: 20.54 MB (21,538,670 bytes)

The KB's 3021952 & 3032359 (5.2mb) that are continually removed/re-offered/re-installed/re-removed... lather, rinse, repeat... are actually the child package component KB3023607 which gets removed by deepclean.

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Anonymous
2015-03-30T23:03:36+00:00

At this point, it's evident that MS needs to investigate why Windows Update cleanup detection logic is ...broken (for lack of a better word) on some user's computer's only, there has to be a "missing link" ... I'm out of ideas and don't see too many here or elsewhere on the Innernetz

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I have 2 options to correct the problem of KB3031432 not appearing in Installed Updates but yet the MSU installer returns the message KB3031432 is already installed... and the PendingDeletes that won't.

  1. Repair Install
  2. Restore from prior backup image (2/12/15, after Feb Black Patch Tuesday, tested on spare HDD.

Thank to everyone who replied, and a special thanks to "J"... seems you're one of the few I've seen around here that "gets" it.

Regards & Hasta la Bye-Bye

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"Pink"

Edit to add: I have successfully restored my system to a previous backup image (2/12/15) prior to the "March Patch Madness" described in my OP, uninstalled the troublesome KB2852386 that enables Update Cleanup and re-applied the March '15 patches, all now appear in Installed Updates, including KB's 3023607, 3035131 & 3031432. Kindly mark this as "Answer" as I consider this matter resolved... if only temporarily.

Thank you.

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  1. Anonymous
    2015-05-29T14:19:51+00:00

    yep, it seems solved finally.

    in my case KB3021952 as IE11-Windows6.1-KB3021952-x64.msu only applied manually.

    KB3023607 vanished. deepclean is ok.

    rgds,

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-05-23T19:09:50+00:00

    This problem no longer exists as of May 2015 patch Tuesday. KB3023607 removed by WU cleanup, no longer re-offered.

    Thanks to all who replied.

    "Pink"

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-05-13T19:39:49+00:00

    I'm just sick of this neverending story of M$ WU bugfixing w/o any result...

    Thus pls find a closing comment to the M$ Black Tuesday of May 2015 and my personal conclusion concerning this M$ mess. I guess that now it's really the final one.

    IE11 patch KB3021952 (Feb2015) as the early bird of this year M$ WU issues as well as the sole problem remains unsolved by MS WU team thru 3 months is put to a hidden list in its full size of 55MB forever. There is no any limitation for deepclean at the moment.

    The funniest point of all this fuss around is that its sole culprit is KB3023607 (some messy TLS security patch aka Windows6.1-KB3023607-x64.msu), which was very much unlucky bundled by the M$ WU team to KB3021952 aka IE11-Windows6.1-KB3021952-x64.msu and offered as a single update KB3021952.

    If M$ WU team could be smart enough to simply unbundle this combined KB3021952 and offer both its parts separately we'd likely have no problem with updating of IE11 itself but just a cycle re-offer (after deepclean) of some standalone small & likely non-critical TSL patch aka KB3023607. I believe this TLS patch as non-critical when my IE11 always passes M$ own TLS test here M$ TLS Test Page either with or without all these IE11 security patches offered from Feb2015 installed.

    Moreover, I found that every IE11 update offered earlier and put to a hidden list is vanishing from WU every time when any next IE11 patch offered, therefore it seems very much likely that if IE11-Windows6.1-KB3021952-x64.msu would offered separately it will be smoothly overwritten by any of the next offered IE11 patches and thus isn't essential to be installed when any next IE11 patch is applied.

    Well, now there are 5 KBs total in my hidden list:

    1. KB3021952 for IE11 of Feb2015 in full;

    (Note: Both KBs for IE11 of Mar & Apr 2015 as KB3032359 & KB3038314 were simply vanished from my WU hidden list immediately as the new IE11 patch of May2015 aka KB3049563 was offered & installed)

    1. two KBs first marked by WU as Optional and now as Recommended - concerning the Win7 upgrading as KB2952664 & KB3035583;
    2. two others first marked by WU as Optional and now as Recommended - those are

    likely useless in my case:  

    KB3013531 - it's some trash about .mkv media files transfer to Windows Phone...

    (well I don't have any objection to use of .mkv files... although it's surely the greatest sorrow of my life that I don't see any winphone around. hey winphone where are you?!)

    KB3022345 - it's some Diagnostics Tracking Service of Win10...

    (oops I believe that it's better to stay away from M$ support, which is overcrowded by m$mvps... anyhow I'm surely don't need one more tracking service of M$... at least until it will be proven as helpful)

    Have a fun!

    C ya,

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