What exactly does KB2952664 do?

Anonymous
2014-04-27T00:12:24+00:00

KB2952664 was published on April 22, 2014 and appears in my Windows Update List (I am running Windows 7 Pro - 64 bit).

The description of this update is vague:  "This update helps Microsoft make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows."

Anyone have more information on what this update actually does? If its sole purpose is to ease the "upgrade" from Windows 7 to Windows 8 (or 8.1 or 8.1 update), then I'll just permanently hide KB2952664 (I have no desire or intention to "upgrade" my Windows 7 system to any flavor of Windows 8).

If its purpose is to ease what would be a true Windows 7 upgrade to a yet-to-be-announced Windows 7 SP2, then I'll keep it (but still would like to have more information about what KB2952664 actually does before installing).

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  1. Anonymous
    2015-08-07T19:26:39+00:00

    why can't Microsoft just incorporate whatever KB2952664 does into the upgrade itself

    If they did what you suggest that would not ease the upgrade process.

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    By incorporating whatever KB2952664 does into the upgrade process, Microsoft can easily be assured that all users who choose to upgrade get the full benefit of the "ease in upgrade process " that KB2952664 allegedly brings.

    The users would actually see no benefit.

    Gerry,

    Perhaps I am not being clear in what I mean by suggesting that Microsoft incorporate whatever KB2952664 does (to ease the upgrade process) into the upgrade process itself. Let me try to provide a better explanation ...

    Lets assume that KB2952664 performs tasks X, Y, and Z (and as a result future upgrades are easier).

    Lets assume that an upgrade process (say Windows 7 or 8 to Windows 10) performs tasks A, B, C, D, and E.

    Microsoft is telling us that by first performing tasks X, Y, and Z (i.e., installing KB2952664), then subsequent upgrades (tasks A to E) would be made easier.

    If Microsoft revised the upgrade process such that it first performs tasks X, Y, Z and then A to E, then the standalone KB2952664 could be eliminated and ONLY those customers who chose to upgrade would first have tasks X, Y, and Z performed on their computer.

    Customers who do not upgrade their OS, would not have X, Y, and Z performed on their computer .... but those customers would not need tasks X, Y, and Z because they are not upgrading their OS, and Microsoft assures us that the purpose of tasks X, Y, and Z (i.e., KB2952664) are ONLY to make the upgrade process easier.

    With the revised upgrade process noted above, both customers and Microsoft would benefit. Customers (who are not upgrading) would not have an unwanted and un-needed update installed (and re-installed, and re-re-installed) on their computers, and Microsoft would be assured that those customers who do choose to upgrade will also get the update necessary to make the upgrade made easier.

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    Here are some answers to other questions from your last post:

    >If an affected user has hidden the update the question is, is it better to have the re-issued update installed ASAP or allow those who have hidden the update to miss out because they are unaware that the problem update has been re-issued. What do you think?

    Good question.

    In my case, I have NEVER installed KB2952664, so I do not need (or want) to install the subsequent revisions (because I never plan to upgrade the OS on my computer). I want KB2952664 to remain hidden (or removed from Windows Update) ... unless/until Microsoft tells customers that there is something more to KB2952664 other than easing the OS upgrade process. 

    In general, I think that if a user has hidden any update, and a subsequent revised update is released, and if Microsoft chooses to unhide the update (without asking permission from the user) ... then the Windows update process (that unhides the update) should somehow set a flag denoting that the previously hidden update was unhidden. Then, when/if the user elects to install the previously hidden update (or when Automatic Updates chooses to install the previously hidden update), the Windows Update process should check for the presence of a flag (denoting that the update was unhidden). If the flag is found, then the Windows Update process can pop-up a warning message to the user ... telling them that an update they previously hid is about to be installed (and ask for yes/no permission).

    >If the revised update is not installed then it can create further problems in the future, which result in subsequent updates not being offered or installed correctly.

    I have never installed KB2952664, and never intend to. So, I do not need any of the approximately 12 revisions that have been made to KB2952664 since it was first released. I never plan on upgrading the OS on my computer, and thus I keep KB2952664 hidden.

    Microsoft says the sole purpose of KB2952664 is to make future upgrades easier. If not having installed KB2952664 on my computer results in some future problem (other than making an OS upgrade harder), then Microsoft needs to be more transparent and tell customers what the impact is of not installing KB2952664 (apart from making future OS upgrades harder).

    >Are you hiding it because you have encountered past problems with installing the update or because you do not think you need the update?

    I am hiding KB2952664 because I do not need the update. Microsoft says the purpose of the update is to ease the process of upgrading to a new OS, and I have no plans of ever upgrading the OS on my computer.

    >I suspect, as you say, that Microsoft do want customers to install KB2952664.  Why shouldn’t they, if they believe it will improve their customers experience when using Windows?

    Microsoft never said that installing KB2952664 will improve their customers experience when using Windows. Regarding KB2952664, Microsoft said: "This update helps Microsoft make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows.". So, ONLY those who will upgrade their OS to a newer (latest) version of Windows will benefit from KB2952664. Why would Microsoft so aggressively push an update to all users when (by their own description) that update only benefits a subset of their customers).

    >Is what they are doing detrimental to the interests of customers? ....

    What evidence do you have to suspect that perhaps KB2952664 does something more?

    I don't know if KB2952664 is (or is not) detrimental to customers. Microsoft has never explained what KB2952664 does, how it makes the upgrade process easier, and what the consequences would be if a customer initiated an upgrade without first installing KB2952664. I have no evidence that KB2952664 does anything more than make the upgrade process easier ... but I do question why Microsoft would so aggressively push an update to all users when only a specific subset of users really need the update (unless the update does something more than merely make the upgrade process easier). I just prefer to not install updates on my computer that are not needed (since making any change to a computer can result in problems).

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-08-07T20:18:01+00:00

    upgrades it's done but don't know my pc still haved KB2952554 because I'm ready cleaned my old os (windows7 ultimate 64bit)

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-08-10T15:30:25+00:00

    Gerry C J Cornell replied on August 7:

    Barry

    What are you trying to prove? You are simply demonstrating what I said in my previous message. Your list might have been shorter if you had set Windows Update to Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them.

    All I was trying to "prove" is to state the dates that I installed the KB2922664 update.  I have the referenced option set, because I do not want Windows Update to install a patch when I am not at the machine.  I install ALL patches that appear in WU unless I have seen previous notice that the patch causes problems.  I have never hidden KB2922664, and it has not,

    as far as I know, caused problems on my Windows 7 Professional system.  The only patches I have hidden were on my Windows XP system, where WU insisted that I needed to install two .NET 1.1 patches; i no longer had .NET 1.1  installed.  I had two later versions installed.

    My initial query that started this long thread was this - What does that patch do?

    --Barry Finkel

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  4. Anonymous
    2015-08-10T17:41:05+00:00

    Barry

    My initial query that started this long thread was this

    This remark has me puzzled? Your first post was 11 months and 5 pages after the initial question by Langware!

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  5. Anonymous
    2015-09-13T17:35:10+00:00

    They're still trying to sneak this through, along with others, some new, some old.

    Here's some to watch out for (including our beloved here):

    KB2505438

    KB2670838 – Windows 7 Only (breaks AERO functionality and gives you blurry fonts on some websites)

    KB2952664

    KB2976978 – Windows 8 only

    KB3021917

    KB3035583

    KB3075249

    Source: http://www.techworm.net/2015/08/new-windows-788-1-updates-spy-on-you-just-like-windows-10.html

    Caveat emptor.

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