What exactly does KB2952664 do?

Anonymous
2014-04-27T00:12:24+00:00

KB2952664 was published on April 22, 2014 and appears in my Windows Update List (I am running Windows 7 Pro - 64 bit).

The description of this update is vague:  "This update helps Microsoft make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows."

Anyone have more information on what this update actually does? If its sole purpose is to ease the "upgrade" from Windows 7 to Windows 8 (or 8.1 or 8.1 update), then I'll just permanently hide KB2952664 (I have no desire or intention to "upgrade" my Windows 7 system to any flavor of Windows 8).

If its purpose is to ease what would be a true Windows 7 upgrade to a yet-to-be-announced Windows 7 SP2, then I'll keep it (but still would like to have more information about what KB2952664 actually does before installing).

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-06-11T01:05:17+00:00

    Microsoft's use of the X at top right corner of the Windows 10 installation dialog box (i.e., allowing the X to have the same effect as an OK button would) ... is not only deceptive, but also contrary to their own published documentation on guidelines for creating dialog boxes.

    The guidelines can be seen on this page, and they state this ...

    "The Close button on the title bar should have the same effect as the Cancel or Close button within the dialog box. Never give it the same effect as OK."

    The same guidelines also state this ...

    "Use Cancel or Close for negative commit buttons instead of specific responses to the main instruction."

    Microsoft appears to be desperate about getting Windows 10 installed, and is willing to violate even their own guidelines ... this goes way beyond just plain deception.

    Well, yeah, except that page refers to the use of Dialog Boxes, and the first question developers are advised to ask to determine if it is the right user interface is:

    • Is the purpose to provide users with information, ask users a question, or allow users to select options to perform a command or task? If not, use another user interface (UI).

    Since the purpose of the Windows 10 installation box is clearly not to provide information, ask a question, or allow users to select any options that might result in them not getting Windows 10, it is obviously not a dialog box at all, but some other user interface that just happens to look a lot like a dialog box, and those guidelines do not apply.

    This should be obvious to anybody smart enough to own a computer by that fact that the X doesn't behave the way it would if it were a dialogue box.

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  2. Anonymous
    2016-06-10T23:10:14+00:00

    When you have marketed operating systems and software for over two decades in which clicking on an X at the top right corner always closes a window, program, application, or whatever else it appears in, with no further action taken by the process (without some sort of warning), and then, suddenly and uniquely, clicking on an X at the top right corner of a window causes the installation of a new operating system to begin (without any warning), this is deceptive marketing.

    Microsoft's use of the X at top right corner of the Windows 10 installation dialog box (i.e., allowing the X to have the same effect as an OK button would) ... is not only deceptive, but also contrary to their own published documentation on guidelines for creating dialog boxes.

    The guidelines can be seen on this page, and they state this ...

    "The Close button on the title bar should have the same effect as the Cancel or Close button within the dialog box. Never give it the same effect as OK."

    The same guidelines also state this ...

    "Use Cancel or Close for negative commit buttons instead of specific responses to the main instruction."

    Microsoft appears to be desperate about getting Windows 10 installed, and is willing to violate even their own guidelines ... this goes way beyond just plain deception.

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  3. Anonymous
    2016-06-10T21:43:47+00:00

    This is not lying; this is not deceptive marketing; this is very effective social engineering.

    I will grant that technically, it is not lying, but it is playing a bit loose with the definition of "explicit" - it will be interesting to see if Microsoft's holds up in court.

    When you have marketed operating systems and software for over two decades in which clicking on an X at the top right corner always closes a window, program, application, or whatever else it appears in, with no further action taken by the process (without some sort of warning), and then, suddenly and uniquely, clicking on an X at the top right corner of a window causes the installation of a new operating system to begin (without any warning), this is deceptive marketing.

    It certainly is very effective social engineering to tell your customer base "trust us" for decades, get the overwhelming majority to do just that so you can take advantage of their unsuspecting nature, then have external apologists make excuses for you as they profit from your customer's vulnerability.

    If I were a social engineer conducting a mass experiment, I might be proud of such results. If I were a software company, I would be proud to be able to say that people are using my product because they think it's really good, not because they weren't bright enough not to get tricked into it.

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  4. Anonymous
    2016-06-10T20:36:07+00:00

    Barry,

    From what I have read, the convenience rollup (KB3125574) is more like ...

    a) a collection of all Windows Update patches that have been released for Win 7

    If you have been keeping up with the monthly Windows Update patches (minus the patches that you have been skipped because they enable Windows 10 nags or skipped because they enable sending telemetry to Microsoft, etc) ... then you do not need to run the convenience rollup (KB3125574).

    If you are installing a fresh version of Windows 7, then the convenience rollup (KB3125574) might make that task easier.

    Here are two links to more information ...

    Woody Leonard's blog is always a good source of information about Windows issues.

    This thread (from Woody's blog) discusses actual experiences with the convenience rollup (be sure to read the comments).

    http://www.askwoody.com/2016/windows-7-sp2-convenience-update-rollup-under-examination/

    This site discusses know issues with the convenience rollup ...

    http://windows-update-checker.com/FAQ/ConvenienceRollupKB3125574-Issues.htm

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  5. Anonymous
    2016-06-10T20:22:24+00:00

    I believe it's B, but that includes ones that they didn't think were worthy of publishing on their own.

    SO if you're up to date on WU, you have no need for the rollup.  If you have a new install of Win7 SP1 (in my case, new PC upgraded to Win7; in others maybe you were forced to reinstall Win7 because they hijacked you to WIn10 and you were unable to back it off), THEN you need the rollup.

    Even if done manually, you'f have to go through all of them and see which ones are trojans, hide them, then because you have to iteratively do this, prob'ly recheck because they might bring it back, or they may add others.

    GWX Control Panel didn't do much before other than pat me on the back telling me I passed.  In THIS case I had to count on it to keep me from being hijacked.  I resent having to do it, but I'm glad it's around.

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