USB Midi Controllers Not Working On Windows 8.1 (SOLVED!) [Windows Update]

Anonymous
2013-12-13T08:10:58+00:00

Hello, I have a problem (see subject above).

I have been trying to fix it on my own but nothing seems to work.

I have never had this issue before and I have been Producing music since XP.

On Windows 8 my midi controllers worked just fine. As soon as I updated via windows store, My controllers have become unresponsive.

I have checked (And updated!) under device manager all of the Universal Serial Bus Drivers.

Everything seems to be working fine there, except when running any DAW (digital audio workstation) such as: FL Studio, Cubase, Pro Tools, Ableton, Ripper, Studio One, Reason.

The midi controllers show up as available but do not send or receive any midi messages.

Both my external Audio Interfaces work as far as Outputting sound in both Directwave and ASIO.

But midi does not.

PLEASE HELP, I do not EVER wanna be a MAC fanboy... but this Windows 8.1 update is pushing me away.

No Midi Controllers = No New music from me = Shopping around for a new system pretty soon :(

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

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Anonymous
2014-08-12T22:40:13+00:00

Description of the issue:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/usbcoreblog/archive/2014/01/21/windows-8-1-usb-midi-device-works-on-usb-2-0-port-doesn-t-work-on-usb-3-0-port.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage

Fix for this issue is in August update released this morning.  Please install update.  With this fix, you don't have to apply the registry setting to workaround the problem.

www.microsoft.com/.../details.aspx for x86 systems.

www.microsoft.com/.../details.aspx for x64 systems.

-Eliyas

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Anonymous
2014-01-10T02:17:10+00:00

We were able to repro the issue with TEXTECH INTERNATIONAL LTD. (USB\VID_15CA&PID_0101 ) MIDI device. This device works when connected to 2.0 but not on 3.0 port. We debugged the issue and found the regression.

The 3.0 host controller driver in Windows 8.1 is forwarding a MSOS descriptor query to the device and that some how causes the device to get confused. The interesting part is that the even though the device is not fully functional, it doesn't fail any I/O. So from looking at the bus trace, every thing looks good. It is this one query that is sent during initialization causes the device to sulk, and then it never internally recovers.

Windows 8 doesn't send this query.

Another thing to note is that this issue manifest only for composite devices.

Fortunately there is a registry override to inform the core USB stack to not send this query. So I request you to apply the registry setting for now to workaround the issue.  We will try to get this fix added to a future update and roll it out widely. 

Get the VID/PID/REV ID of the device from the device manager. For example, for the device I'm using the VID/PID/REV values are 15CA/0101/F110.  With that, create the following registry entry (this registry key might have been already created in some case) and set the "osvc" value to 00 00.

HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\usbflags\15CA0101F110\

    REG_BINARY “osvc” = 00 00

Unplug and replug the device.

Let me know the results.

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  1. Anonymous
    2014-01-04T13:36:42+00:00

    Please, do you know if this MIDI issue in win8.1 is a bug that will be fixed, or will there be no more support for MIDI?

    I need to know before I take any further actions.

    Best regards Jan Rude Bjørke

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  2. Anonymous
    2014-01-04T15:52:20+00:00

    Hi m8

    Did they manage to solve your midi problem? There are alot of music producers having this problem.

    I know a lot of guys that skipped the Apple and went for MS, same as I did.

    jrb

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  3. Anonymous
    2014-01-04T20:41:29+00:00

    Hi Jan, 

    My best advice to you would be stay on Windows 8 as there are no Real benefits to this windows 8.1 update for us Content Creators.

    It seems the only difference in 8.1 is the return of the 'glorious' Start Button. It is incredible to think that Microsoft released the Windows 8.1 PREVIEW sometime in June of 2013 and then the Official Update in like Oct 2013. They had months to work out the kinks and satisfy the user frustrations. This is why I waited for the official update. So i would not be going through this.

    I was told by a very trustworthy source that MS jumped the gun on this update. That: "It seems they have created more problems to solve the one about the start button, than it's really all worth" She went on to say that "It seems they have eliminated driver support."

    So my fellow Producers, DJs, Freelance Editors, Lighting Engineers, If you rely on Midi I would say STAY ON Windows 8. Do not even bother with this 8.1 at all.

    I now begin the painful process of Recovery where YES all my projects ARE SAFE, but I need to re-install all 10 of my DAWs, About 500+ plugins, About 350GB worth of Sound Libraries (All in different formats), And about 75 Analog Synth Emulations. Plus all the other Stuff a PC needs like Audio drivers (Directwave+Asio), Browsers, Video Codecs, ETC ETC ETC!!!

    Frustrating... but it is what I get for trusting windows off the bat and not doing the 2 weeks worth of reading internet posts (like I should have) to inform myself.

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