How do I disable the new titlebar in Modern Apps?

I'll post any opinion and editorial that I darn well please into a public discussion, thanks.

I do use team viewer, constantly.  I'm actually running it right this very moment on my Surface 2 tablet to remotely view my Sony PC at home.

I don't have to "act" like I know what it was designed for, because it was very explicitly stated by the people who did develop it.  It's for touch first.

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You view your home PC. Impressive. I support multiple clients on multiple Windows versions and have accidently closed and had to reconnect to clients on no less than 5 occasions. It's embarrassing, and it wastes time. In order to compensate for it I'm forced to slow down and be extra careful each time I have to close a maximized window.

And you are plainly wrong about the mouse. "Touch First" is not "Touch Only". When Windows 8 was announced and many times subsequently we were given assurance after assurance with examples of how mouse and keyboard users could operate it just as well -- which was always true (until now).

Do you not see the contradiction of your whole argument?  The title bar was added FOR MOUSE USERS. Touch users don't need it and don't see it (as you point out). But MOUSE USERS are having a problem with it. And your solution is to tell them not to use the very apps in which the title bar that was ADDED FOR THEM appears?  Really?

I'm not sure what your agenda is here. The point of a moderator is to facilitate communication in an open forum. What you are doing is creating resistance and turmoil. You are not offering solutions that address our concerns and you are not, in my opinion, contributing in a positive way to the discussion.

What are you trying to achieve?

I'll post any opinion and editorial that I darn well please into a public discussion, thanks.

I do use team viewer, constantly.  I'm actually running it right this very moment on my Surface 2 tablet to remotely view my Sony PC at home.

I don't have to "act" like I know what it was designed for, because it was very explicitly stated by the people who did develop it.  It's for touch first.

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Official Microsoft Developer Network blog providing the latest news and information about the operating system.

Relax now, I already did.  But every complaint so far is resolved by using the interface as it was intended and designed.

• If you're using your Surface tablet, then use your fingers and you won't see the bar.
• If you are using a mouse pointer, you can use the desktop client (even on your Surface) and you also won't see the bar.

Both ways, the problem is solved.  You are the one intentionally creating a problem by using the product counter to the way it was designed, built, and marketed.  You can't pull a yacht with a Dodge Neon and expect not to blow the transmission.

I never said I don't like the metro environment. I absolutely love it. I use it daily on my Dell Venue 8 Pro and my Surface 2 tablet.  It wasn't built for a mouse pointer though.  There already is a place built for the mouse pointer, and you should give it a try. It's been fine-tuned for decades to give you what you want.

What; are you Steve Jobs now?  We're using it wrong? We are "intentionally creating a problem"?

Is it YOUR intention to be insulting to the customers of the company you moderate for?

Please, if these are going to be the kinds of replies you're going to compose, just, don't.

You obviously don't use team viewer or you'd know there are times when using your fingers is fine and times when using a mouse is necessary for precision.

And I guess we shouldn't use the "metro" IE with a mouse either, considering that the "x" on that pop-down title bar will overlay the arrow to scroll content up. And yes, I've accidently closed IE when trying to scroll up. It's frustrating.

And I think you should stop acting like you know what the product was designed for. It was absolutely designed to be used with a mouse (and keyboard for that matter).  If the designers only intended us to use our fingers there would be no touch pad on the touch and type covers.

Not to mention that these "designs" are CHANGES. The product didn't have these "features" before. They were added without an option to disable them -- which is all we are asking for. Just pass our concerns along without your editorial and give us a chance to be heard.

-Forjo

Relax now, I already did.  But every complaint so far is resolved by using the interface as it was intended and designed.

• If you're using your Surface tablet, then use your fingers and you won't see the bar.
• If you are using a mouse pointer, you can use the desktop client (even on your Surface) and you also won't see the bar.

Both ways, the problem is solved.  You are the one intentionally creating a problem by using the product counter to the way it was designed, built, and marketed.  You can't pull a yacht with a Dodge Neon and expect not to blow the transmission.

I never said I don't like the metro environment. I absolutely love it. I use it daily on my Dell Venue 8 Pro and my Surface 2 tablet.  It wasn't built for a mouse pointer though.  There already is a place built for the mouse pointer, and you should give it a try. It's been fine-tuned for decades to give you what you want.

No kidding.  It's pretty impossible find anyone, anywhere, saying anything nice about Windows 8.  Negativity sells in magazines and newspapers though, unfortunately.

I know I'm coming across as a troll but really, I don't see the complaint when the desktop RDP program was built specifically for mouse and refined over decades to be the best mouse experience. If you're not going to use your fingers (which avoids the title bar), then try the desktop RDP.  It has the old title bar that auto-hides, but it doesn't span the full width and you can move it around.  And you don't lose any functionality as far as the remote session abilities.

So what am I supposed to do about Team Viewer?