Poor font rendering in Windows 8 (blurry text)

Anonymous
2013-02-24T00:17:00+00:00

Apparently there is a huge problem with **** font rendering in Windows 8. Text appears very blurry. Programs affected by the new rendering are: Internet Explorer 10, the modern interface (start screen), Office 2013 and other 3rd party applications that rely on this rendering technology. There is no way to fix this problem, unless Microsoft recognizes it.

I 've gathered links bellow that refer to the same problem to highlight its importance and display the number of users that are affected:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-performance/windows-8-blurryfuzzy-text-and-icons-on-menu-not/ef8945ff-9920-47b2-b4ec-db1c5fbab7de

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/forum/ie10-windows_8/windows-8-fonts-in-metro-ui-and-ie-10-blurry/3c29c415-54fd-44c8-b290-1c01dd05beaf

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/forum/ie10-windows_8/font-are-blurry-in-internet-explorer-10-windows-8/95fba606-5f45-43fa-bd96-413f6d9d9ad6

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/forum/ie10-windows_8/after-upgrading-to-windows-8-pro-my-fonts-in/210e46c9-4d16-4de7-8b59-2a1b0a7c738a

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/forum/ie10-windows_8/internet-explorer-10-windows-8-font-rendering-blur/f3b33400-bb95-450c-9587-68adbf298a2f

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_cp-winapps/blurry-text-windows-8/576183c0-e5e2-4916-8283-0a193d633018

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-hardware/blurry-text-problem/d07ac513-de07-49d9-8718-7fbb6d07b634

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/forum/ie10-windows_8/windows-8-browsers-font-rendering-issue-blocky/86139808-9c3f-48d9-bfa8-61afebd5761c

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/forum/ie10_cp-windows_cp/windows-8-preview-release-blurry-font-rendering/668f454e-012f-498f-a086-b550a96d47e1

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-performance/horrible-windows-8-font-rendering/cc263629-f4c8-4653-af36-435f4e6b7d38

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_other-desktop/will-windows-8-have-better-fonts-or-at-least/ad35ce7b-45a9-44b4-83d9-aae34df8dd97

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-performance/fonts-are-suddenly-ugly-why/ba024dcc-c143-4ede-8f04-27930527c5be

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/forum/ie10_cp-windows_cp/installation-of-windows-8-cp-causes-blurred-fonts/75352b20-cb08-4312-b7f3-6c38bb5f5f0a

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-desktop/monitor-fonts-windows-8-fuzzy-and-no-longer-crisp/052e7a57-79a7-49c5-93dc-bffb01969cbd

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/forum/ie9-windows_vista/some-fonts-are-fuzzy-and-thicker-in-ie9-in/47f1846f-7817-464b-8121-d1ca02dbb71d

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-performance/blurry-text-in-windows-8/ed053d17-b525-4e09-bdbc-de91114d975c

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-performance/windows-8-has-made-my-text-blurry/7e9977e0-335f-4e8b-b321-eb2d156f36c1

Microsoft MSDN/TECHNET

http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winappsuidesign/thread/4ddc57e1-de74-4044-940e-76e35a3e76b9

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-ZA/w8itprogeneral/thread/034ef255-40d5-41d5-9c58-841868326832

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/br/w8itprogeneral/thread/831ee84b-95a1-437a-b051-b7d51e13ba0f

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w8itprogeneral/thread/d9c1ce96-58aa-401f-a5f4-1c62660077ca

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/W8ITProPreRel/thread/409d4e85-1124-4e1c-9cc0-3b2acfd519dd

External forums:

http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1120890-internet-explorer-10-fonts-fuzzy-in-windows-8/

http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-mail/5432-blurry-text-ie10-desktop.html

http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f56/blurry-website-fonts-in-ie10-675564.html

http://www.techplex.net/postst78315_Text-in-Internet-Explorer-10-and-Metro-UI-is-blurry.aspx

http://superuser.com/questions/506192/disable-cleartype-blurry-fonts-in-internet-explorer-10-on-windows-7

http://bugsort.com/computer-users/computer-unclear-type-in-internet-explorer-on-windows-8/?PHPSESSID=10368ff87086c902a678043f63e39762

and there are lots of more...

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  1. Anonymous
    2014-01-29T05:03:31+00:00

    I have been using Windows on a desktop PC for many years.

     

    I don't remember the XP install I did, but when I installed Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1 ClearType was enabled by default.

     

    Irrespective of arguments about ClearType vs DirectWrite, the disturbing fact is Microsoft don't care, and that apathy is an absolute disgrace.  It reflects very badly on Steve Ballmer.

     

    I hope the new CEO, whoever that may be, has the intelligence and initiative to do something about it.

    Full ack on the disturbing "don't care" part when it comes to give us an option to turn any anti aliasing off.

    Off topic: But I am not sure if it really reflects Steve Ballmers thinking. My guess would be that Sinofsky and some "semi-technician-software-ui-designers" were driven to make things "easier" and more "beautiful". And that wish is and was *user* driven. So somehow we (the "anti-alias-not-wanters") are the victims of people who think Windows should be easier, which means less options in their eyes. So there is another Steve to blame: Jobs. He made people believe that his MacOS is so much easier to use. Microsoft had to react to that and they overreacted by thinking that they can merge their OSes for all form factors (PC/laptop, tablet, phone, what next? watch, car, fridge...) into one Windows with one UI, the new One Microsoft. Might turn out that different things need different UIs and different persons need different options ;-)

    Let's see what Windows 9 brings back :-)

    Or even 8.1 Update 1?

    --

    SvenC

    Oh well. We agree on one thing.

    The responsibility for this mess rests with somebody called Steve.  :-)

    I sure hope it is fixed by the time Windows 9 arrives, otherwise I will have to install Linux.

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  2. Anonymous
    2014-01-29T09:53:53+00:00

    Well, I tried Ubuntu 13.10 a few weeks ago because of what we're talking about here and, unlike Windows, it gives you the ability, for the whole use interface and after installing a little program, to choose no anti-aliasing, grayscale or RGB anti-aliasing and you can also change hinting. Truly a luxury of possibilities compared to Windows and I thought, why can just Windows do that? But, unfortunately, it's all messed up when using browsers, Chrome included, because they don't follow the settings of the UI in Ubuntu and I didn't find any way to turn anti-aliasing off. So, I'll stick with Windows 8.1 for the moment...

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  3. Anonymous
    2014-01-29T11:24:14+00:00

    I just used the terms "my standards" because, after reading more about this topic here and there, I found out that some people just get uncomfortable when they see a "staircase" effect in fonts without anti-aliasing, they often qualify them as "jagged", and it seems they just take the esthetic appearance into account.

    I read an article with a link to a text without anti-aliasing with the author inviting the reader to take a look at the ugly rendering and, well, it was exactly the best rendering for me and not ugly... I don't mind the jagged appearance because it's "physically" more comfortable to read for my eyes.

    There seems to be a battle about the esthetic appearance and I'm glad some big companies seem to have understood a bit more about it, like some news sites, and still use web-safe fonts which follow the setting you choose in your browser while some websites now forces Google web fonts with their anti-aliasing on you (new 2013 fashion trend) whatever the setting in your browser because they find it more beautiful (are you kidding me?) and it, unfortunately, works with Chrome.

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  4. Anonymous
    2014-01-29T13:41:22+00:00

    "Electronically displayed type attempts to imitate printed type—it has no choice in this matter. But while our entire typographic tradition (and calligraphic tradition before that) is based on black letters on a white background, electronic devices always display black by also using gray or color. It's a technique called font smoothing. Crisply defined black characters do not exist in this electronic world. All text is intentionally made slightly blurry (see**Figure 2**) to smooth out what would otherwise be jagged-edged characters, where individual pixels are distractingly visible."

    "Electronically displayed type is normally rendered using shades of gray (top, in 14-point) to make its component pixels less visible. The type looks less jagged, but it's also blurry. "

    http://www.adobepress.com/articles/article.asp?p=1747367&seqNum=2

    It seems that "something" in particular decide people to prefer blurred edges to jagged edges or the opposite as the author of this text says that individual black pixels are distracting whereas I find myself that, on the contrary, shades of gray or colors added to characters are more distracting.

    In an ideal user interface, everybody should be able to choose what they prefer though, in my opinion, without the creator of this interface, Microsoft here, choosing themself what they prefer.

    I guess it might be kind of resolved when higher PPI screens are available on all devices though. I don't have the same problem with anti-aliasing on screens having around 200 PPI (my computer screen has around 100 PPI).

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  5. Anonymous
    2014-01-29T14:56:26+00:00

    First let's not detract the reader by comparing cherries with watermelons. The image you posted compares two widely different resolutions, and NOT two different technologies. As far as I can see by zooming properly in, both renderings are antialiased. 

    Many people will aggressively prefer non-antialiased text in low dpi monitors, ignoring that they are in fact viewing specially designed, high quality and carefully hinted fonts for non-antialiased rendering (like Arial)  - or the fact that others have to work with italics, script fonts, various sizes, colors etc,. Check out this image:

    I find the non anti-aliased text unreadable and on my monitor the cleartype (bottom) part is the best, with the grayscale anti-aliased middle coming second. I do realize that some might find the grayscale text better than the others etc. and I'm ok with all that.

    The problem we are discussing here is once again, the lack of any adjustment options that makes the new directdraw/grayscale rasterizer a very bad player, plus the fact that you cannot turn it off or select an alternative. I most definitely would NOT swap it for non-antialiased text, but that's me. In my case I'd like to be able to use the good old cleartype rasterizer, especially in Office and IE, because on my monitor it looks much better than all the rest. (until I get my 4D 16384 x 9216 x 4G colors monitor that is...)

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