I HATE Windows 8. This is the worst OS ever invented.

If it appears to not work correctly, then no other aspect of it matters enough to keep it, if the problem cannot be solved. That includes looks. Especially.

Not work correctly for you or not work correctly for anyone?  Not look right to you or not look right for anyone?

What's the difference? You want me to speak for others now?

Anyone who views it as I do, and I'm sure many do. Those of us who value function above form.

The parallels drawn above regarding cars are specific to PLAY scenarios, not to WORK scenarios.

Ask a UPS driver who's preparing to head off on his route whether he'd rather drive a truck with new paint, shiny and new, that ran poorly, or an older truck with faded paint that runs dependably. He'll say, "load up the old truck."

When there's work to do, hard workers know that appearances take a back seat to equipment that gets the job done.

You don't think that I know that? I have been advocating the use of a third party start menu since I first loaded the developer preview and Classic Shell appeared.

Windows 8 is not a hateful piece of garbage. It is a very good OS that lacks an important feature as it appears out of the box. 

I tell anybody having problems with the 'Modern UI' to install a third party menu because it makes a huge difference and saves a lot of work putting Windows 7 back.

It was a mistake by the Windows 8 team to lose the Start Menu, but they made the decision and that was that, but it is so easily fixed and Windows 8 takes on a new and better life.

If it appears to not work correctly, then no other aspect of it matters enough to keep it, if the problem cannot be solved. That includes looks. Especially.

Not work correctly for you or not work correctly for anyone?  Not look right to you or not look right for anyone?

What's the difference? You want me to speak for others now?

Anyone who views it as I do, and I'm sure many do. Those of us who value function above form.

The parallels drawn above regarding cars are specific to PLAY scenarios, not to WORK scenarios.

Ask a UPS driver who's preparing to head off on his route whether he'd rather drive a truck with new paint, shiny and new, that ran poorly, or an older truck with faded paint that runs dependably. He'll say, "load up the old truck."

When there's work to do, hard workers know that appearances take a back seat to equipment that gets the job done.

You said "if it appears to not work correctly" - yet it works correctly for what I have used it for.  What did not 'work correctly' for you?

Windows 8 isn't just a touch tile OS. It has a desktop too, and using the desktop does not lessen the fact that one is still using Windows 8..

I have no idea how much an update costs since I got my new laptop with it but I think you miss the entire point of the conversation and you keep on coming back to the least important elements of my point, which is fine... not everyone has the same understanding (and by the way, you do need to run experiments after you PhD to get tenured but that's another point). 

In any case, the point is: appearances matter if the people want to remove them... that means people need to have a choice.. Win 8 does not give that choice without a 3rd party software. That is a huge problem. It still does not give a choice in the logging on and the Live ID. Huge problems. This is what my discussion is about. Forget everything else. remember only one thing: CHOICE!