What is the BEST Registry Cleaner for Win 7 Ultimate or Pro 64 Bit version OS ?

On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:23:57 +0000, ArnoldBath13035 wrote:

Don't bother. You do NOT need any sort of registry cleaner and most of them are snake oil.

True, most of them are snake oil, but you most definitely DO need a registry cleaner for Windows,

I don't want to start an argument over this, but I want the OP to see
an opposing point of view. I completely disagree!

as the software does not do an adequate job of eliminating registry keys when removing software.  

Yes, that's often true. But it doesn't matter. Having extra unused
registry entries doesn't hurt you.

Also, failure to use a registry cleaner will result in many Windows problems persisting, even after you reinstall software - take just about any of the thousands of issues that people had when they tried to upgrade from MSOffice 2007 to MSOffice 2010 for example. 

I completely disagree. That hasn't been my experience, and it hasn't
been the experience of dozens of other people I know.

Here's my standard message on the subject:

Registry cleaning programs are all snake oil. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

Read
http://www.howtogeek.com/171633/why-using-a-registry-cleaner-wont-speed-up-your-pc-or-fix-crashes/
and also
http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2005/10/02/registry-junk-a-windows-fact-of-life.aspx

You also might want to read the section on the CCleaner Registry
Cleaner here:
http://www.howtogeek.com/113382/how-to-use-ccleaner-like-a-pro-9-tips-tricks/

Let me point out that neither I nor anyone else who warns against the
use of registry cleaners has ever said that they always cause
problems. If they always caused problems, they would disappear from
the market almost immediately. Many people have used a registry
cleaner and never had a problem with it.

Rather, the problem with a registry cleaner is that it carries with it
the substantial risk of having a problem. And since there is no
benefit to using a registry cleaner, running that risk is a very bad
bargain.

I recommend uninstalling software using Revo Uninstaller, then using CCleaner and the CCleaner Registry cleaner.

Two additional points:

1. CCleaner is an excellent program, as long as you don't use its
   registry cleaning functionality.
2. Even though my advice is not to do it, if you feel you must use a
   registry cleaner, it's safer to use CCleaner's than almost any of the
   others. Safer, yes. But not needed. and not risk-free. It too is a
   bad bargain.

Don't bother. You do NOT need any sort of registry cleaner and most of them are snake oil.

True, most of them are snake oil, but you most definitely DO need a registry cleaner for Windows, as the software does not do an adequate job of eliminating registry keys when removing software.  Also, failure to use a registry cleaner will result in many Windows problems persisting, even after you reinstall software - take just about any of the thousands of issues that people had when they tried to upgrade from MSOffice 2007 to MSOffice 2010 for example. 

I recommend uninstalling software using Revo Uninstaller, then using CCleaner and the CCleaner Registry cleaner.

"Microsoft does not recommend using a registry cleaner."

---I'm into working out my 2nd Win-7 crash.

---Win would accept none of my System Backups.

---I took manual action on the drive and got Win to run, but applications are misplaced relative to the partitions they belong (drive names were changed).

---I will do anything to avoid the erroneous statement to just "Reload Windows" because at the current age of Win-7 there are 1,000s of updates.  You run Update, reboot, run Update again, reboot, and on and on for many hours.  Then you reinstall all of your applications and run Update to be sure their Drivers are current.

---Creating Restore Points has never worked neither Automatically nor Manually except for Security updates.

---I was a DOD AUTOVON programmer and new software was checked until every possible variation of input was accurately handled.  Commercial application providers do not do this, in my 50 years of computer experience.

---Nonetheless, I again naively dug around M.S.' site for a Registry Fixer, and again am disappointed.

---Certainly, it's an economic decision for them not to create one.  I bet their Accountants and Engineers ran a CUCRIT to prove it.

---On to Regedit....

Hello,

My view about maintaining windows OS fit is contined in a freeware tool named CCleaner. There are many reasons to use this tool. The best reason is this cleaner fix invalid registry codecs and drivers.

My personal choice is to run:    sfc /scannow

This is verifying and restore damaged or missing OS files. (OS = operating system)

After I am sure all files are there and vaild signed I use sometime %windir%\system32\cleanmgr.exe

tihis is "Disk Cleanup"

Last spet is to use CCleaner safely.

On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:10:36 +0000, Lead3 wrote:

Techies, IT Admins, Hackers, programmers all say the same thing: you should do a complete clean install of Windows every 6 to 9 months. If you don't, you will notice your system gets sluggish.

This is untrue.   None of the "Techies, IT Admins, programmers"  I know recommend a complete clean install of Windows every 6 to 9 months.

 I have systems that have been running for years and they are not sluggish nor in any way problematic.

Ditto. I'm a "techie," and I used to be a programmer. My
recommendation is to never reinstall unless there is some problem that
you have been unable to fix any other way.

In my view, it's usually a mistake. With a modicum of care, it should
never be necessary to reinstall Windows (any version).  I've run
Windows 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, WFWG 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98,
Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, and now
Windows 8.1, each for the period of time before the next version came
out, and each on two or more machines here. I never reinstalled any of
them (with a single exception--a problem that I worked on for weeks
unsuccessfully), and I have never had anything more than an occasional
minor problem.

It's my belief that this mistaken notion stems from the technical
support people at many of the larger OEMs. Their solution to almost
any problem they don't quickly know the answer to is "reformat and
reinstall." That's the perfect solution for them. It gets you off the
phone quickly, it almost always works, and it doesn't require them to
do any real troubleshooting (a skill that most of them obviously don't
possess in any great degree).

But it leaves you with all the work and all the problems. You have to
restore all your data backups, you have to reinstall all your
programs, you have to reinstall all the Windows and application
updates, you have to locate and install all the needed drivers for
your system, you have to recustomize Windows and all your apps to work
the way you're comfortable with.

Besides all those things being time-consuming and troublesome, you may
have trouble with some of them: do you have or can you find all the
drivers you need? can you find all your application CDs? Can you find
all the needed installation codes? Do you have data backups to
restore? Do you even remember all the customizations and tweaks you
may have installed to make everything work the way you like?
Occasionally there are problems that are so difficult to solve that
Windows should be reinstalled cleanly. But they are few and far
between; reinstallation should not be a substitute for
troubleshooting; it should be a last resort, to be done only after all
other attempts at troubleshooting by a qualified person have failed.

And perhaps most important: if you reformat and reinstall without
finding out what caused your problem, you will very likely repeat the
behavior that caused it, and quickly find yourself back in exactly the
same situation.