What is the BEST Registry Cleaner for Win 7 Ultimate or Pro 64 Bit version OS ?

On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:10:36 +0000, Lead3 wrote:

Techies, IT Admins, Hackers, programmers all say the same thing: you should do a complete clean install of Windows every 6 to 9 months. If you don't, you will notice your system gets sluggish.

This is untrue.   None of the "Techies, IT Admins, programmers"  I know recommend a complete clean install of Windows every 6 to 9 months.

 I have systems that have been running for years and they are not sluggish nor in any way problematic.

Ditto. I'm a "techie," and I used to be a programmer. My
recommendation is to never reinstall unless there is some problem that
you have been unable to fix any other way.

In my view, it's usually a mistake. With a modicum of care, it should
never be necessary to reinstall Windows (any version).  I've run
Windows 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, WFWG 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98,
Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, and now
Windows 8.1, each for the period of time before the next version came
out, and each on two or more machines here. I never reinstalled any of
them (with a single exception--a problem that I worked on for weeks
unsuccessfully), and I have never had anything more than an occasional
minor problem.

It's my belief that this mistaken notion stems from the technical
support people at many of the larger OEMs. Their solution to almost
any problem they don't quickly know the answer to is "reformat and
reinstall." That's the perfect solution for them. It gets you off the
phone quickly, it almost always works, and it doesn't require them to
do any real troubleshooting (a skill that most of them obviously don't
possess in any great degree).

But it leaves you with all the work and all the problems. You have to
restore all your data backups, you have to reinstall all your
programs, you have to reinstall all the Windows and application
updates, you have to locate and install all the needed drivers for
your system, you have to recustomize Windows and all your apps to work
the way you're comfortable with.

Besides all those things being time-consuming and troublesome, you may
have trouble with some of them: do you have or can you find all the
drivers you need? can you find all your application CDs? Can you find
all the needed installation codes? Do you have data backups to
restore? Do you even remember all the customizations and tweaks you
may have installed to make everything work the way you like?
Occasionally there are problems that are so difficult to solve that
Windows should be reinstalled cleanly. But they are few and far
between; reinstallation should not be a substitute for
troubleshooting; it should be a last resort, to be done only after all
other attempts at troubleshooting by a qualified person have failed.

And perhaps most important: if you reformat and reinstall without
finding out what caused your problem, you will very likely repeat the
behavior that caused it, and quickly find yourself back in exactly the
same situation.

+1 -

My Win7 install dates to Jan 2010, and has been 'imaged' over to my 'new' (two years old) machine.

In addition; both machines use different hardware - AMD cpu / Nvidia gpu to Intel cpu / AMD gpu.

Top that with another  system breaker alleged system breaker (or very popular myth) of old,  ;)

I have changed from the AMD gpu to Nvidia, and then changed back to the AMD when the Nvidia

had to be RMA'd, and then back to Nvidia again now.

No worries....

I may be none of the pros above, but as someone who plays a lot of system intensive games I've noticed

no degradation in performance with my Win7 install, and get the frame rates I expect from my system.

Sure, I may have seen some small degradation if I'd been a compulsive 'synthetic'

bench-marker, but nothing in real world gaming.

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Techies, IT Admins, Hackers, programmers all say the same thing: you should do a complete clean install of Windows every 6 to 9 months. If you don't, you will notice your system gets sluggish.

This is untrue.   None of the "Techies, IT Admins, programmers"  I know recommend a complete clean install of Windows every 6 to 9 months.

 I have systems that have been running for years and they are not sluggish nor in any way problematic.

hi you say: "Microsft does not recommend using a Registry cleaner"

But you recommend Registry software why on earth do you recommend such things but not recommend registry cleaner. There is something wrong there.  Microsoft has recommend a lot of registry software in the past why?

If MS recommended a lot of registry SW in the past, can you supply *1* URL that shows MS recommending a registry cleaner on any MS operating system in the past 15 years?  Just "1" ... I mean if there was "a lot", you should be able to find 1 URL w/MS recommending it.  If you can't, find even 1, maybe MS hasn't recommended any for quite a while.

The only think MS used to recommend was something to clean up old office software entries -- BUT with the arrival of Office 2000 -- PARTIAL (looking broken because they point to files that don't exist) registry entries have been used by MS's auto-installer to automatically install pieces of Office Software, *as needed*, so you didn't have to install the whole thing at once.  From that point on, MS stopped recommending any registry cleaners.   The ONLY registry tuning that has been recommended since then is something that dumps and restores the entire registry -- but that hasn't been available or recommended, that I know of, since Vista.  The benefit of doing that (dump / restore) was to compact your registry -- which is of minimal usefulness on today's computers.

Software publishers don't follow a standard when writing to the registry -- so how can a 3rd party cleaner know what is valid and what is not?

MS had SW interfaces that imposed standards, but most SW publishers wrote

their own and wrote directly to the registry in their own format and have been since Win9x.  There has been no way to police such actions -- so there is no way to know what to clean out.  There are no ownership tags nor creation dates in the registry.

It's like a dumb'ed down 'FAT32' filesystem -- no user info, and no date info -- only

security descriptors.  The registry doesn't have enough info in it to determine what

is valid and what is not.

Your computer sucks due to your poor maintenance and MS's aiding you in keeping it so.  That's why 64-bitOS's by default don't allow you to install your own drivers anymore -- and why some processes on win7 are normally not touchable by you -- MS is trying to create protected parts of the OS to add to stability and security -- and add to the ability to resist tampering and forging/counterfeiting (with rootkit infested versions).  It's slow going, since people still want compatibility, AND because a totally protected OS would make the PC into a "game console" by default (in the sense that you can only run binaries signed by MS)...

An option -- maybe linux?...  but it is going in a similar direction under corporate pressure.

Windows in all my years becomes bloated as time goes by. Techies, IT Admins, Hackers, programmers all say the same thing: you should do a complete clean install of Windows every 6 to 9 months. If you don't, you will notice your system gets sluggish. The Android OS works the same way on smartphones.  

Your computer sucks is nothing to do with the user, unless of  course the user didn't do a clean reinstall at the required interval.

If I had seen this url 8 weeks ago I would have kept my mail from MS. But that was 8 weeks ago when I did download Perfect Registry and since then my problem have been more and more difficult.  So after reading this I will never even trust MS when they recommend something for my computer.