Is there a stop to Internet Backgammon cheaters?

Anonymous
2010-04-09T18:01:10+00:00

So I have enjoyed playing Backgammon in the past, but nowadays is just IMPOSSIBLE.  I am sure many others have noticed this.  There are players out there that can control the dice at least for them, and some can even move more chips than the allowed by standard rules.

For example, not 10 minutes ago, I rolled 6 and 5, then the guy doubled me on his first roll, and got double three, then I rolled and I got 4 and 1, then he rolled and got 3 and 1, then I rolled and got 3 and 2, then he rolled and got double 5 eating my lonely chip in position 1 and covering position 3 from position 8.  Do you call that a lucky roll?  I call that an engineered roll, if you know Backgammon.

Yesterday, a guy moved 6 chips using a double 5.  That same guy rolled 4 consecutive pairs.

Yesterday, I had 5 out of 6 positions occupied in my side and I ate one of the other player's chips.  I did this repeatedly.  The guy just lost 1 roll out of 4 chips I ate.  He also had 5 of 6 positions occupied.  He ate a chip of mine twice.  I had to roll some 10 times before I could get out each time.

If you know Backgammon, you know this is NOT right.  Losers out there have found a way to cheat, and that ruins the fun for us, the ones with a brain.

Microsoft, please put an end to this.  Your Windows license is expensive, and I paid for it, and I expect to be able to enjoy all the features in the OS, and that includes the included Internet gaming.  Roll a patch that can end this blatant cheating!

MCP

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Anonymous
2010-04-10T13:55:17+00:00

Hi,

If you have any feedback’s, then I would suggest you to post here:

https://connect.microsoft.com/?wa=wsignin1.0

 Please respond back with the status of the issue and let us know if you have any issues.

 Azam – Microsoft

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  1. Anonymous
    2012-02-19T17:17:49+00:00

    you are talking about the backgame, and it is the tactic used by the best players.

    I always try and get two points in my opponents homezone: once you do that you are the favourite to win. If the opponent takes you, to help you get the two points then that is their problem. Of course once you get the two points then you pray for small throws; when I am on a winning streak I do; when on a losing streak I get double 6's. 5's etc. My opponent quite often thinks I am being lucky getting doubles, wheras in fact the opposite is true.

    If you are playing an opponent with 2 points in your HZ then it is extremely likely that you will at some stage leave yourself open, and if you don't then you have been extremely lucky

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  2. Anonymous
    2012-02-19T19:39:51+00:00

    What your saying makes perfect sense if the opponent can not control the die numbers.

    When I am lucky enough to play a straight game I do my best to keep my opponent trapped there.Waiting to long to get the heck out can cost you the game.

    I have had one guy that will get 4 or some times 5 stones in my home zone and leave it to his cheat program to bore his way out with 3 rolls. Unless you are controlling the die it's impossible.

    If they need double 5/6's in a row to bail out all of a sudden they get it. Go figure. In playing a non computer version of BG you get that kind of luck when you need it.

    I avoid knocking them out at all cost concentrating on getting to my home zone asap. That means

    getting out of their HZ ASAP. When they control the die every roll is perfect for blocks immediately. 2-4 1-3 4-5 6-1 and 6-6. Gee what ever happened to all the 5-2 1-2 6-2 6-3 etc that everyone else gets.

    This is not luck it's cheating. With these rolls they can have you blocked in 3 rolls. Of course you don't have that option even with some luck because as I posted before they can control not only their die but your too.

    It is no coincidence when you get 1-2   4 times in a row.

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  3. Anonymous
    2012-02-19T20:03:39+00:00

    " have had one guy that will get 4 or some times 5 stones in my home zone and leave it to his cheat program to bore his way out with 3 rolls. Unless you are controlling the die it's impossible."

    If someone gets 4/5 of their pieces in your HZ, then that is bad play by you. I never want more than two of my opponents pieces in my HZ, unless I can get them all on the bar primed out.

    All the top players try and get 2 points (ie: 4 pieces) in their opponents HZ, and then they try and keep getting hit so as to slow their movement forward down.

    If your opponent has 2 points in your HZ, you will almost certainly have to give him chances to hit you, and probably if he has played well, he will almost have a prime in his HZ stopping you getting on. This isn't cheating, it is just good play.

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  4. Anonymous
    2012-02-20T03:18:52+00:00

    Thank you. I understand the situation now. I agree that what goes on at MSN backagmmon isn't a high priority in my life either. I take it that the game is played peer to peer or one of the boards acts as host to reduce the load on the servers. Servers and moderators, which are needed to stop cheating would be expensive. That's a fair explanation. 

    P.S. This thread was a good place for me to vent with some admittadly snarky comments.

    Kudos to the moderators for taking things in stride. Now that I understand Microsoft's position, I feel much calmer. I am very curious about the  technical coding solutions that might prevent cheating, but I guess that would be for another forum.

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