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So I have enjoyed playing Backgammon in the past, but nowadays is just IMPOSSIBLE. I am sure many others have noticed this. There are players out there that can control the dice at least for them, and some can even move more chips than the allowed by standard rules.
For example, not 10 minutes ago, I rolled 6 and 5, then the guy doubled me on his first roll, and got double three, then I rolled and I got 4 and 1, then he rolled and got 3 and 1, then I rolled and got 3 and 2, then he rolled and got double 5 eating my lonely chip in position 1 and covering position 3 from position 8. Do you call that a lucky roll? I call that an engineered roll, if you know Backgammon.
Yesterday, a guy moved 6 chips using a double 5. That same guy rolled 4 consecutive pairs.
Yesterday, I had 5 out of 6 positions occupied in my side and I ate one of the other player's chips. I did this repeatedly. The guy just lost 1 roll out of 4 chips I ate. He also had 5 of 6 positions occupied. He ate a chip of mine twice. I had to roll some 10 times before I could get out each time.
If you know Backgammon, you know this is NOT right. Losers out there have found a way to cheat, and that ruins the fun for us, the ones with a brain.
Microsoft, please put an end to this. Your Windows license is expensive, and I paid for it, and I expect to be able to enjoy all the features in the OS, and that includes the included Internet gaming. Roll a patch that can end this blatant cheating!
MCP
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Hi,
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Azam – Microsoft
Yes skill is some times the answer.
And sometime its skill with cheats. The number of games that end with your opponent getting 3-5 doubles in a row should be statistically low. And its not.
Look up SQL injection and other means to subvert software -- if you think software does not get tricked or clients cracked. Software does get busted. Many consider that a bigger game than the programs original intent.
I have played there years ago, but there is too much score cheating. I once logged on two computers with different ids and played myself. That's how player get high scores above 2600.
However, now that you have reminded me again, I may try it again. Thanks.
I am also trying to get a group of local people to play BG on physical boards once a week for a dollar a point. I was in a group several years ago and that's the best way to play - skill only counts here.
The real thing is that this web site claims to be Microsoft.com.
Now this is only a game and has no real importance except that there are claims which state that Microsoft backgamon can be cheated.
As they are a software manaufacture I am amazed that they are not jumping in here and defending their honour.
Prehaps there are cheaters and MS are not clever enough to figure a way to stop them.
How many security patches have they comeout with for windows already. If they can't fix the OS then there is little chance of them fixing thes stupid little games.
May be it just shows how much they really care about us users their customers and what bloody fools we were to buy their software.
Especially when there is an abundance of open source free systems to choice from. Take this example a buddy has a hard drive fail so he buys a new PC it comes with Microsoft Office student edition. The outlook program is only trial software. What do most people want to do surf the web, play games and email their friends. Well my buddy wanted to do address label printing and for that an address book is needed with MS Office 2010 the Word progams only seems to want to read the outlook address book database. Short answer MS want £119 for MS outlook.
Open source answer £0 LibreOffice and Motizilla Thunderbird.
Have a really nice day Bill Gates. Must be fun to give away so much of your customer hard earned cash. prehaps your ar right there could be some real big cheaters around.
I do believe it is possible for cheating to occur with MS Internet Backgammon. I have played both the XP and Windows 7 versions. Both versions do have their own "bugs" and some of the problems described by people are nothing but these bugs.
There is, however, a program (called Cheat Engine) that, so far, I have used to find the address of the two dice (die) and view the results of the roll. This indicates that the numbers rolled are generated by the computer of the roller. This is a random number generator that the program uses. Several years ago (back in the DOS days), I wrote a program for generating random numbers. The main problem with RNGs is that they can sometimes "stick" and repeatedly generate the same numbers. The fix is that the RNG is reseeded each time by something (check out http://romhack.wikia.com/wiki/Random_number_generator for one explanation). Once these numbers are generated, they are sent to the game server, which passes the numbers on to the opponent (at least I think this how it works).
The reason that I think this how it works is that with Cheat Engine, I tried to change the results. Once you have the address and the numbers rolled, you can change the number of one of the die. On the board, the move indicator shows the correct move for the either of the numbers. When I move my first piece, then the indicator changes to the number that I changed. It doesn't matter which die I change (I can enter numbers into both of them), whichever number is the remaining move, that indicator changes to the number I entered in. The problem is that when I move the piece, I get kicked out of the game with an error code.
My thought is that others who are much better at hacking than me can easily figure this out. I didn't try to find out this out in order to cheat, but I wanted to find out if it was possible. Perhaps if I did suspect someone of cheating, it might be nice to turn the tables, but then again, they would just quit.
As mentioned before, it is just a @)%*#ing game and for those of you who don't understand this, keep politics out of it. There is really no difference between Republicans or Democrats ... they are all @)%*#ing politicians.
Good Luck