Is there a stop to Internet Backgammon cheaters?

Anonymous
2010-04-09T18:01:10+00:00

So I have enjoyed playing Backgammon in the past, but nowadays is just IMPOSSIBLE.  I am sure many others have noticed this.  There are players out there that can control the dice at least for them, and some can even move more chips than the allowed by standard rules.

For example, not 10 minutes ago, I rolled 6 and 5, then the guy doubled me on his first roll, and got double three, then I rolled and I got 4 and 1, then he rolled and got 3 and 1, then I rolled and got 3 and 2, then he rolled and got double 5 eating my lonely chip in position 1 and covering position 3 from position 8.  Do you call that a lucky roll?  I call that an engineered roll, if you know Backgammon.

Yesterday, a guy moved 6 chips using a double 5.  That same guy rolled 4 consecutive pairs.

Yesterday, I had 5 out of 6 positions occupied in my side and I ate one of the other player's chips.  I did this repeatedly.  The guy just lost 1 roll out of 4 chips I ate.  He also had 5 of 6 positions occupied.  He ate a chip of mine twice.  I had to roll some 10 times before I could get out each time.

If you know Backgammon, you know this is NOT right.  Losers out there have found a way to cheat, and that ruins the fun for us, the ones with a brain.

Microsoft, please put an end to this.  Your Windows license is expensive, and I paid for it, and I expect to be able to enjoy all the features in the OS, and that includes the included Internet gaming.  Roll a patch that can end this blatant cheating!


MCP

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Anonymous
2010-04-10T13:55:17+00:00

Hi,

If you have any feedback’s, then I would suggest you to post here:

https://connect.microsoft.com/?wa=wsignin1.0

 Please respond back with the status of the issue and let us know if you have any issues.

 Azam – Microsoft

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  1. Anonymous
    2010-09-02T17:59:18+00:00

    flagoff, did say something smart ... 

    And on that note, who would win a game of internet backgammon between Capt Kirk and Darth Vader?

    the trekky geek says, "Kirk !!"

    the star wars geek says, "Vadar !!"

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  2. Anonymous
    2010-11-30T20:36:39+00:00

    I recorded the first roll of my opponent for 2221 games.  The opponents rolled a 6  861 times or 39% of the time.

    The probability of rolling a 6 is 16.7%

    The dice are not random or some opponents have control of their roll.

    And, yes, there is a way to stop cheaters - don't play them

    Here's my way of telling a potential cheat (play experts and make them roll first):

    1. Their come out roll is a 6 or you have equal rolls and must roll again.
    2. Their first free (2 dice) roll is a double or a 65.
    3. There is a long pause before their roll.  (They are busy recording moves)
    4. There is a long pause after their roll and especially before an obvious move like a 31, 61, 55, etc.
    5. They double before their first foll.  (A win is insured for them)
    6. When losing severly, they roll 2 life-saving doubles in a row.

    The down side is that you will be playing only about 10-20% of the games to the end, win or lose.  It is very difficult to find a non-cheater based on the above.  But, almost guarenteed, if you play them, you will lose.  So why bother.


    New study results.  This time I counted (using a program I developed) their come out roll of a 6 or equal rolls.

    The expected probability is 33% (1/6 + 1/6)

    I got 242/344 or 70%


    One more thing...try playing as a beginner, not an expert.  They tend not to use the cheat programs against beginners.

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  3. Anonymous
    2011-01-28T06:34:35+00:00

    You are absolutely right on about the cheating.  I sat one whole afternoon and pulled my hair out over this. I started keeping track of rolls, doubles, and percentages. When you play as many games as I did in one day, and only win one...with a real person, who actually resigned and played another game, you know something is up.

    For a while there, I couldn't believe what was happening.  I just kept saying things about how it seemed I was being forced to move my stones according to what the other player wanted and it was getting crazy.  It was then that I found this forum.

    If someone gets as nasty as the guy who insulted you, you can bet he's one of the cheaters himself!!!!  I am not really familiar with computer players or how that works, but I would prefer to play the computer than a cheater!!!

    THIS NEEDS TO STOP.  You should see my board go crazy...when they start moving my stuff around!!!

    WINDOWS FIX THIS PROBLEM!!!!

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  4. Anonymous
    2011-01-28T07:21:11+00:00

    Hey flagoff...why don't you BUZZ off. You are one of the cheaters aren't you?

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