Is there a stop to Internet Backgammon cheaters?

As I type, I have stopped playing against a cheater who is waiting for my role even though he has me completely blocked.....I figure it's payback for the times I have waited for the cheat to move but decided to stop play because I was beating that person.

I cannot begin to stress the FACT that cheating is not only going on here, but is completely proliferated the internet.

I personally don't know where they are coming from, but I saw a report on TV that China is behind most of the hacking on the planet.

The Government of China has acted in every way possible to destroy our nation from every possible facet of life.

This Government should immediately move to raise tariffs against them, and encourage the corporations that moved there to come home...or face losing their charters here.

I saw on TV the other day of the GE CEO who stated that the US fears China, but he does not.

This tells me he is either working with China, or is a complete fool, which there has been a history of being in every society.

I bet his PC is hacked.

I also play backgammon a lot, and beat about 78-80% of the players I face, including any cheaters (if there are any). Yes, there are games I suspect are weighted either by cheating, or VERY lucky rolls, which (of course) are possible without cheating.

I've never seen anyone move 6 pieces on a move. However, without cheating, I have rolled doubles in succession a handful of times. I've had it done by the other player a number of times. It does SEEM more common in certain situations (but it could just be me):

a. When the other player is trying to catch up.

b. When I'm playing vs. the computer (other player has resigned).

Another VERY bad couple of things that I KNOW are problems, and I wish Microsoft would fix:

1. Some players have learned to ignore nudges. (It's happening to me right now, actually, which is why I came here.) This typically happens when I sense the other player is angry with me. The game is stalled. I nudge them. The time expires, but it's still they're turn. I go and do something else. Either they eventually return, and play continues, or I get disconnected eventually. (The opponent who is doing this can send me chat messages, or turn chat off and on. even though I nudged them 30 minutes ago.)
2. There is a bug to watch out for, that ought to be fixed. If you roll doubles, and move quickly, and change your mind, and decide to re-play the doubles, BE SURE to take your time. Do it slowly. Most of my disconnect-losses are due to this. I think better of it, and start to replay my doubles, and BOOM! I'm disconnected.

Is this a Microsoft thing, or a wifi thing? Anyway... watch out.

THESE LAST TWO ARE "SUSPECTED" PROBLEMS:

3. When playing against the computer (other player has resigned), I'm almost positive that the luck is in the computer's favor. If they have the 6 spot and the 1 spot covered, and I'm on the bar, I'm VERY likely to roll a 6-1, or double 6s or 1s. If I'm about to beat the computer, which I do 99.x% of the time, then the computer virtually ALWAYS gets the precise roll needed to hit me. If I'm bearing checkers off against the computer, I end up leaving open single checkers close to 100% of the time vs. the computer, which it manages to hit about 80% of the time. This is unheard of, compared to a human player, against which I tend to get my checkers off fairly safely. I use the same, careful strategy. I don't ease up, just because it's the computer and I know I'm gonna win. Am I imagining things? I need to keep a database...
4. I've suspected that some have learned how to cheat, but I certainly have no proof it's not just incredible luck. Certainly, I've been beaten by lesser players. They were awful, and made beginners' moves, and yet managed to beat a strategy that clearly is successful. I've also been beaten by smart players who sure seemed to be lucky (and maybe just smarter than me). I have no beef with getting beaten, as long as it's truly fair.

I have proof positive of a player who did not move his first piece(167 pips), yet I was given a nudge. I had 159 pips.

It is impossible that it was my turn. I have a screen shot of the board and the nudge pop up.

This happens frequently but I never had this proof.

You tell me how this happened. Microsoft?

I also had 5 spots blocked and the other player hit 4 four times in a row including double 4s to send 2 of my pieces back. Possible but not likely in a fair game. I was way ahead & had one peice  trapped and he doubled. Very odd wouldn't you say?

Triple doubles by the other player are another problem. Again it is posssible (216 to 1) but I had a player do it 3 consecutive games against me. Again i was doubled in an ulikely position for the other player to double.

Unfortunately I think it is you who fails the entry requirements for the group 'those with a brain'.   No one is cheating at backgammon and to think they are shows a lack of maturity and a poor understanding of both the game of backgammon and the nature of microprocessors.

 

 

The device that generates the numbers for the die is unsophisticated and very reliable.  The device that interprets the data (your brain) is very unreliable and tends to operate with a mixture of logic, intuition, emotion and degrees of chemical imbalance.

 

 

If you think losing to someone who rolls incredible numbers is frustrating just wait until you understand the game really well and try being beaten by someone that thinks it is possible to cheat!

 

 You must think the public is stupid. I have played Backgammon for over 40 years and anyone with a half a brain can tell when the opponent is cheating. You cant just randomly roll 6/2 or 2/2

or4/2 or doubles exactly when  you need them to pull up the rear..You never get a 5/2 or 4/3 or2/3

or any odd combination. Your configurations always are the perfect combinations to set blocks or bounce the other guy out. If you get behind the doubles come like crazy "just in time"

What's the point in playing? Does it make you feel better if you win when you cheated? Are you so stupid at the game you can't play with out your cheater soft ware?

When I suspect numbers that are just to uniform to long for the other player, or half way through the random combinations seem to go away, I just ditch the game.

Go play with the computer. It's ridiculous.

By the way you people with automated programs, it is as obvious as heck, you can tell it in a NY minute.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I woudn't believe this to be true if I hadn't seen it myself.  I just had a game with someone and here is how it started:  I roll to see who goes first. I lose and he makes the first move. Just as he is moving his first piece one of  his pieces flies off the board and into the area where the game ends.  I don't know what that area is called.  I have a screen shot to support this. I was like, whoa, what just went on here?  Someone has definitely hacked into this. How else could it happen?  When I finally said "nice try" he resigned.